【卓球】早田ひな 世界2位王曼昱にフルゲーム惜敗でベスト16敗退＜WTTチャンピオンズマカオ＞
https://news.ntv.co.jp/category/sports/3f9bda7b3b614b57915da52ea977d201
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/565a3522e8730043f5b0cbe61a49a39c38a8c880/comments
ロートル
6時間前
以前は遠くからのひなドライブが特徴的でしたが、最近では比較的前陣での攻撃型にバージョンアップし攻撃力もアップした様に思います。
ですが、そのスタイルは中国選手に多く今回も惜しくも結果に繋がりませんでした。ケガも全快の様ですのでまた次回永遠の課題に挑戦してください。
(Previously, her signature shots were the Hina drives from a distance, but recently she has upgraded to a more aggressive style at the table, which I think has also increased her offensive power.
However, this style is common among Chinese players, and unfortunately it did not translate into results this time either. She appears to be fully recovered from her injury, so I hope she will take on this eternal challenge again next time.)
38 concur, 10 ic, 55 hmm
y********
7時間前
ここまで仕上がっているなら、もう腕の怪我はとやかく言わないでほしい。
完全に良くなる前に試合出ること決めてるのは本人なんだから。
橋本や大藤みたいに別にランキングなんて上げようと思えば一気に上がるのに、東京オリンピックの選考レースで出遅れたことを気にしてランキング維持を意識しすぎ
(If she's in such good shape, I wish they'd stop complaining about her arm injury.
She's the one who decided to compete before she was fully recovered.
Like Hashimoto and Odo, if she really wanted to improve her ranking she could do so in no time, but she's worried about her late start in the Tokyo Olympics selection race and is too focused on maintaining her ranking.)
172 concur, 11 ic, 63 hmm
vmq********
7時間前
これで対孫選手の17連敗を筆頭に中国トップ4には1勝も出来ておらず全敗記録更新···
怪我をしっかり治してから出直してください。日本女子は層が厚いので成長を期待できる選手が沢山いますので！
(This marks a 17-match losing streak against Sun, and she hasn't won a single match against China's top 4, updating her losing streak...
Please make sure to recover from your injury before coming back. The Japanese women's team has a deep roster, so we can expect them to grow.) [Same user from the other article]
177 concur, 6 ic, 68 hmm
kat********
7時間前
いつの間にか王選手を応援してました 一度やってしまった悪印象はなかなか拭えないな 今日の試合、左手首にサポーターはしてましたが全く気にしてない様子 あの時のMTOは何だったんだ？？？
何時もの失敗したあとの大袈裟なジェスチャーも嫌味にしかみえません 悪いけど 残念！
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Before I knew it, I was rooting for Wang. Once you make a bad impression, it's hard to erase it. She was wearing a support on her left wrist in today's match, but she didn't seem to mind it at all. What was that MTO about back then???
Her usual exaggerated gestures after making a mistake just seem sarcastic. Sorry, but it's a shame!)
268 concur, 8 ic, 106 hmm
bud********
7時間前
…というか、どちらかと言えば、王マンユが大丈夫か心配になる。
このところ、長﨑美柚 → 橋本帆乃香 → 早田ひなと、立て続けに日本人選手に「２ゲームを与えること」を許している。
王マンユはもともと、１ゲームくらいはわりと簡単に相手に渡してしまうことが少なくなかったが、最近の状況はさすがにどうしたものか。
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...or rather, I'm worried about Wang Manyu's condition.
Recently, she's allowed 2 games to be "given" to Japanese players in succession: Nagasaki Miyu, Hashimoto Honoka, and Hayata Hina.
Wang Manyu has always been known to easily concede at least 1 game, but her recent performance has really made me wonder what's going on.)
112 concur, 14 ic, 12 hmm
ori********
7時間前
連敗記録更新ですか？！怪我する前から中国トップの4人の選手には全敗だから予想通りですが。既に日本女子5番手まで下がってるので、まずは怪我の治療を優先した方がよいと思います。
(Updating her losing streak?! This is expected, considering she lost to all of China's top 4 players before her injury.
She's already down to 5th-placed among Japanese women, so I think she should prioritize treating her injury first.) [Same user from the other article]
130 concur, 4 ic, 53 hmm
kur********
5時間前
MTOは私自身疑問に思うところがあるけど、わざわざ攻撃的なコメントを載せている人たちの神経がわからない。非難されて自殺する有名人が多いのは今時周知のことなので、匿名だからと言いたい放題は良くない。
(I personally have some doubts about MTO, but I don't understand the mentality of people who go out of their way to post offensive comments. It's common knowledge these days that many celebrities commit suicide after being criticized, so it's not okay to say whatever you want just because you're anonymous.)
55 concur, 1 ic, 32 hmm
vmq********
5時間前
それだけ疑問に思われる行為をしたのですから、自己弁護ではなく、きちんと謝りけじめをつけ反省しないといけないと思います。
(Since she has done something that is so questionable, I think she needs to apologize properly, take responsibility for her actions, and reflect on them, rather than trying to defend herself.)
16 concur, 1 ic, 21 hmm
his********
4時間前
17歳の高校生を泣かせた酷いと、25歳で懸命に世界と戦っている選手を執拗に攻撃する。
不思議でなりません。
(It's terrible to make a 17-year-old high school student cry, and relentlessly attack a 25-year-old player who is competing hard on the world stage.
I find this incomprehensible.)
10 concur, 0 ic, 10 hmm
oun********
6時間前
みんなが非難しだすと平気でその流れに乗る人の多いことに驚きます。いじめの構造ですね。
(It's amazing how many people are willing to go along with the flow once everyone starts criticizing. It's a structure of bullying.)
25 concur, 1 ic, 11 hmm
kic********
7時間前
相変わらず早田を非難するコメントが多いですね。
専門の「卓球王国」や「Number」のWebなどをを見ても、「早田はルール違反だ」なんて言っている処はないでしょう？
早田は五輪で利き腕を故障し、今も治療を受けながら戦っています。まるで、「治るまで試合に出ちゃいけない。」「負けている時にタイムアウトを取って逆転勝ちしちゃ卑怯」みたいな感情的な意見が多いですね。
今でも張本は早田を恨んでいるだろうか？
もうそんなことはないと思うけどね。
「悪口がはけ口」なのは周りだけじゃないのかな。
(As always, there are a lot of comments criticizing Hayata.
Even if you look at the websites of specialized magazines like "Table Tennis Kingdom" and "Number," you won't find any mention of "Hayata breaking the rules."
Hayata injured her dominant arm at the Olympics and is still fighting while receiving treatment. There are a lot of emotional comments, like, "She shouldn't play until she's healed," or "It's unfair to call a timeout and win a comeback when you're losing."
Does Harimoto still resent Hayata?
I don't think so anymore.
Maybe it's not just those around her who find "an outlet for badmouthing"?)
102 concur, 3 ic, 146 hmm
vmq********
35分前
kicさん
ルールではないので主催者WTTの管轄外です。卓球界の不文律の慣習である同士討ちの際ベンチにコーチを入れない決まり事を破ったのです。事前に協会から了承得ていたと3週間後に弁明してますが（協会は認めておらず真偽は不明）、事前に、もしくは、最低限コーチを呼ぶ時点で、対戦相手側に説明、了解取得しなければアンフェアとなります。そもそも公平性の観点設けられた慣習ですから。試合後本人が「今日は気持ちの勝負だった」とコメントしてることからも意図的に揺さぶりをかけたものと疑問視されてます。スポーツマンシップに反する行為が問題視されているのです。
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kic-san
Since it's not a rule, it's outside the jurisdiction of the organizer, WTT. She broke an unwritten table tennis custom of not allowing a coach on the bench during a friendly match. 3 weeks later, she explained that she had received prior approval from the association (though the association has not acknowledged this, so the truth of this is unclear). However, if she had not explained and obtained the opponent's consent in advance, or at least when calling in a coach, it would be unfair. It's a custom established from the perspective of fairness. Her comment after the match, "Today was a battle of wills," raises questions about whether she intentionally tried to destabilize the opponent. This unsportsmanlike behavior is being called into question.[/b])
3 concur, 0 ic, 0 hmm
kic********
3時間前
早田は前もって主催者に
1.メディカルタイムアウト（MTO）を使いたいと言った。
2.その時、個人的に慣れている人のマッサージを受けたいと言った。
3.アドバイスを受ける誤解を受けないため第三者の立会を認めた。
これらのリクエストを主催者は認めた。
早田が前もってすべきことは、ここまでです。
早田には、対戦相手の張本の了解を得る義務はありません。
なにが痂疲で卑劣な行為なのでしょう？
最終ゲームで早田がMTOを取った時、張本は疑心暗鬼・不安になった。
その気持ちは分かります。
たぶん、主催者からの説明が無かったか、うまく伝わっていなかったのでしょう。
しかし、それは主催者と張本の間の問題でしょう。
早田の人間性とは何も関係ない。
(Hayata told the organizers in advance:
1. I wanted to take a medical time-out (MTO).
2. At that time, I said I wanted to receive a massage from someone I was personally familiar with.
3. To avoid any misunderstandings about receiving advice, I allowed a third party to be present.
The organizers approved these requests.
That's all Hayata should have done in advance.
Hayata is under no obligation to obtain the consent of her opponent, Harimoto.
What is so petty and despicable about this?
When Hayata took an MTO in the final game, Harimoto became suspicious and anxious.
I understand her feelings.
Perhaps the organizers didn't explain it well, or perhaps didn't communicate it properly.
However, this is a matter between the organizers and Harimoto.
It has nothing to do with Hayata's character.)
15 concur, 0 ic, 9 hmm
cyo********
6時間前
MTOについては文句なんて言ってませんよ。ちゃんとインタビュー見たんですか？意見は其々あると思いますが、きちんと何があったのか確認したうえで書いてほしいです。しかも、マスゴミアナウンサーに質問されて答えただけです。その答えも、涙は流れたけれど「号泣」なんてしていないし。
私自身も、あの試合中の早田選手の振る舞いには疑問しかありません。
(She didn't complain about the MTO. Did you actually watch the interview? I'm sure everyone has their own opinions, but I'd like you to properly check what happened before writing. Also, she was just answering questions from a mass media announcer. She shed tears, but she wasn't "crying her eyes out."
I personally have nothing but doubts about Hayata's behavior during that match.)
36 concur, 0 ic, 12 hmm
mas********
5時間前
> ちゃんとインタビュー見たんですか？
このメディカルタイムアウトについて、試合後、張本は涙ながらに語っている。
「大会の治療の方がいて、そこまでは意見はないけど、途中から(早田の)コーチでもある方が治療をされていたので、そこはすごく疑問に思いました。アドバイスだってできるかもしれないし、そこはすごい試合中も疑問に思いながら待っていました」
(> Did you actually watch the interview?
After the match, Harimoto spoke tearfully about the medical timeout.
"There was someone treating her for the tournament, and I don't have any opinions about it, but halfway through, someone who was also (Hayata's) coach was treating her, so I was really curious about that. I thought maybe he could have given her some advice, and I was really wondering about that throughout the match.")
14 concur, 0 ic, 9 hmm
chips
4時間前
自分の行動が相手（張本さん）に疑問を抱かせてしまったというのがポイント。
今までの説明だと、自分に瑕疵はなく、疑問に思うほうが間違ってると言外に言っているようにしか取れない。そういうところがわからないんだなぁ、残念だなぁ、ということですよ。
(The key point is that her actions caused the other person (Harimoto) to question.
From your explanation so far, it seems as if you're implying that she's not at fault and that it's the other person who's questioning her who's wrong. It's a shame you don't understand that.)
15 concur, 0 ic, 7 hmm
ori********
4時間前
mas
早田が実力で勝てないからスポーツマンシップに反する卑劣な行為をとったのです。試合後の早田のコメント「気持ちの勝負だった」には驚きました。
(mas
Hayata's unsportsmanlike behavior was a cowardly act because she couldn't win on skill alone. I was surprised by Hayata's post-match comment, "It was a battle of wills.")
16 concur, 0 ic, 13 hmm
vmq********
5時間前
ルールより大事なスポーツマンシップに著しく反する行動をとったからですよ。
(This is because they behaved in a gross violation of sportsmanship, which is more important than the rules.)
22 concur, 0 ic, 14 hmm
ori********
6時間前
ルール違反ではありませんよ。本人も認めている慣習を一方的に破ったものです。
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It's not a violation of the rules. It's a unilateral violation of a custom that the person herself acknowledges.)
31 concur, 1 ic, 15 hmm
bea********
7時間前
同感です。
かなりアンチ増えましたね
ルール違反ではないわけだし。
(I agree.
The number of haters has increased significantly.
It's not against the rules, after all.)
28 concur, 2 ic, 45 hmm
mas********
6時間前
張本が、負けた言い訳にメディカルタイムアウトの件を使っただけ。実力が足りないから負けたんでしょ。
(Harimoto just used the medical timeout as an excuse for her loss. She lost because she wasn't skilled enough.)
30 concur, 0 ic, 53 hmm
jun********
6時間前
フルセットであろうがなかろうが負けは負け。まだまだ中国選手との壁は厚いか。橋本が出場して欲しかったなあ
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A loss is a loss, whether it's a full game or not. The wall between China and Japan is still too high. I wish Hashimoto had participated.)
69 concur, 2 ic, 25 hmm
epi********
7時間前
王選手素晴らしい戦いでした！
勝利おめでとうございます♪
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That was an amazing fight, player Wang!
Congratulations on your victory!) [Same user from the other article]
159 concur, 4 ic, 50 hmm
kaw********
7時間前
タイムを取れば勝ったのに！
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If I had taken the time, I would have won!)
136 concur, 8 ic, 51 hmm
しいたけ
7時間前
タイムアウトは？必殺技じゃん
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What about the timeout? The special move)
128 concur, 5 ic, 50 hmm
