Just tried Rxton 5 and T3

[Michael Zhuang]

Just tried a couple rubbers from Loki.

A lot of people seem to be using Rxton 5, so I decided to give it a try. The sponge is really hard, 49d, and it looks a lot like a H3. Its really dense sponge and the topsheet is tacky. Based on reviews, I thought it would be quite fast, but I was a little disappointed. Its a little faster than H3 and Target, but slower than Big Dipper, Bloom Power, B2. Its basically a copy of H3 I think, but a little more lively. I think this is not really an easy rubber to play with. For people who are using Rxton 5, what is it that you like about it?

T3 has a so-called black carbon sponge. Its 45d, and similar to AK47 red. Matte topsheet and hard sponge. It produces good speed on both FH or BH. I could get some really powerful smashes and loops with this. The performance is similar to AK47, but it has a denser or stiffer look and feel to it. AK47 has a lighter/airy feel to it. I think a lot of people would like the T3, but since its a little more expensive than the AK47, might as just get the AK47.

 

[Michael Zhuang]

Also, the Rxton 5 is listed as 49 hardness, but it actually feels way harder. Even if you push hard, you cannot compress the sponge at all.

I was thinking maybe I should put some baby oil on it to make it easier to play.

 

[lodro]

Also, the Rxton 5 is listed as 49 hardness, but it actually feels way harder. Even if you push hard, you cannot compress the sponge at all. I was thinking maybe I should put some baby oil on it to make it easier to play.

i only ever tried the V because when some of the TT-greats here on the forum did a review he said the V was the best. I use them with 1 layer of seamoon booster, they never even bother to curl but just soften a wee bit. I use them on both FH and BH and have no problem getting the opposition doing that famous look at their blades , right after the ball has screamed passed their elbow. 😂 I wish somebody would buy me a Dignics rubber so i could then loudly proclaim :" Rxton 5 is the closest rubber to Dignics you can get."

 

[Michael Zhuang]

The sponge is so dense, i do think booster would help it.

But out of package, i think some 729 and reactor rubbers seem better.

 

[Michael Zhuang]

i only ever tried the V because when some of the TT-greats here on the forum did a review he said the V was the best. I use them with 1 layer of seamoon booster, they never even bother to curl but just soften a wee bit. I use them on both FH and BH and have no problem getting the opposition doing that famous look at their blades , right after the ball has screamed passed their elbow. 😂 I wish somebody would buy me a Dignics rubber so i could then loudly proclaim :" Rxton 5 is the closest rubber to Dignics you can get."

Have you tried big dipper? I definitely think that is more similar to dignics. Way more bouncy and fast.

 

[mocker88]

I feel that the Rxton III is closer to H3N than Rxton V in some way. It has a bit softer sponge, and still really good spin. T3 was working like a fast backhand blocking rubber for me. It's impossible to create spin as with H3 and Rxton with this one.
Yep. A Big Dipper H38 with a couple of booster layers gives really good bounce and superb spin. That could be somewhere nearby the Dignics feeling.
LOKI N80 is a quite nice rubber as well. Like a softer version of H3N. Good feeling, spin and easy blocking.

 

[lodro]

Have you tried big dipper? I definitely think that is more similar to dignics. Way more bouncy and fast.

I was just joking Michael, I have no data at all to compare with Dignics because i never played with one.

 

[Michael Zhuang]

I feel that the Rxton III is closer to H3N than Rxton V in some way. It has a bit softer sponge, and still really good spin. T3 was working like a fast backhand blocking rubber for me. It's impossible to create spin as with H3 and Rxton with this one.
Yep. A Big Dipper H38 with a couple of booster layers gives really good bounce and superb spin. That could be somewhere nearby the Dignics feeling.
LOKI N80 is a quite nice rubber as well. Like a softer version of H3N. Good feeling, spin and easy blocking.

How is N80 different from rxton 5? They seem almost the same.

 

[mocker88]

How is N80 different from rxton 5? They seem almost the same.

Rxton 5 is harder both in top sheet and sponge. N80 is more like Big Dipper, but a bit softer. More soft feeling with N80. More direct feeling with Rxton 5.

 

[Michael Zhuang]

Interesting. N80 sounds like a really good performance rubber. But its double the price of Rxton 5...so not sure if its worth it.

 

[Michael Zhuang]

The Rxton 5 sponge really is quite dense and hard, so I decided to add a layer of baby oil to see if its easier to play.

Overall i feel like its lively version of H3, but the sponge is just so hard.

 

[lodro]

Michael you give the hardness of the 5 as """"The sponge is really hard, 49d""""", are you using the same
parameters as the ones used for hurricanes , so for example H 41 ????
Can you tell me where the figure of 49 can be read please ???

 

[Michael Zhuang]

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On the Loki Store page, it gives Rxton 1 at 45, and Rxton 5 at 49d hardness. This is not the same scale as DHS hurricane.

I think on the DHS scale, it would actually be 37d. But it just seems and feels way harder than that. It feels like 40d on the DHS scale to me.

 

[Michael Zhuang]

Why do you like the Rxton 5 so much so as to use it on FH and BH? I think its really difficult to use on BH, but makes sense as a FH rubber. Although I think there might be better options at FH as well.

I have found Bloom Power to be faster and easier to use.

 

[mocker88]

Why do you like the Rxton 5 so much so as to use it on FH and BH? I think its really difficult to use on BH, but makes sense as a FH rubber. Although I think there might be better options at FH as well.

I have found Bloom Power to be faster and easier to use.

Yes. Bloom Power H47 is really nice on forehand.

 

[Michael Zhuang]

Yes, I was planning on buying more Bloom for $11 on Aliexpress, but Friendship now raised the price to $17.

 

[Michael Zhuang]

Wow, something else really weird happened. I applied 1 layer of baby oil to Rxton 5. It did start to curl a little, but it seems that small cracks have formed on the topsheet, and the oil has even seeped through the cracks and appear on the surface of the topsheet.

I have never seen that happen before. Anybody else seen that?

I hope I didn't ruin a brand new rubber.

 

[lodro]

Wow, something else really weird happened. I applied 1 layer of baby oil to Rxton 5. It did start to curl a little, but it seems that small cracks have formed on the topsheet, and the oil has even seeped through the cracks and appear on the surface of the topsheet.

I have never seen that happen before. Anybody else seen that?

I hope I didn't ruin a brand new rubber.

Wow !!
sure is new one for me too and i would suggest that the rubber might have been faulty.
How much oil do you apply ?
I normally give quite a frugal layer and at (roughly) 20 -24 degrees C it all soaks up within about one hour.
If one would completely soak the sponge , anything might happen.
Re. why do i like the lRXTON5 so much ??????????????
Well, it just seems to suit my playing style but remember, " I am weird " 😂
When I bought my first Neo 37, with the intention to put it on to my backhand that just never worked for me until by mistake
I one day I accidentally started playing with the 37 H on the FH. (BH was then H3 2.15 / H39) and only the pingpong gods know why BUT this now worked real fine for me . 😵

Now I have given up on the NEOs completely, I prefer the standard H3 on the blades i use for playing doubles and I am
using RXTON5 both sides on the blades I use for singles.

I lack the science to come up with a proper answer why this works for me and that is OK. It is satisfying to play this way and i have fun. ..............all is well. 😊

 

[Michael Zhuang]

Curled up like this. I hope i didnt put too much oil and make the sponge too mushy.
but the sponge just felt so dense and hard to me.

 

[lodro]

Curled up like this. I hope i didnt put too much oil and make the sponge too mushy.
but the sponge just felt so dense and hard to me.

This is only a mild curl but when i apply 1 layer of seamoon it does not curl that much.
So my guess is that indeed you "swamped" the sponge with too much oil, but this really is just a guess.