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1. Hirano FH topspin
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2. Pavade's FH topspin
Have a look at these two very distinct FH topspin of these two professional table-tennis player.
I asked Chad to give me a comparison and this is what he said:
The two players in the videos you shared have contrasting forehand styles, reflecting different technical approaches and philosophies in table tennis. Here’s a breakdown and comparison of each player’s forehand style:
Player 1 (First Video):
Forehand Loop Style:
• Key Characteristics:
• A compact and efficient stroke with minimal unnecessary movement.
• Uses shorter backswing and quick acceleration through the ball.
• Generates explosive power from the legs and torso with noticeable rotation of the hips.
• Close-to-the-table positioning with a focus on timing (usually early ball contact).
• Primary Strengths:
• A speed-first approach, emphasizing quick recovery between shots.
• Strong timing and consistency, allowing rapid combinations and counterattacks.
• Technical Focus:
• Wrist engagement is moderate, used to add spin without compromising speed.
• Emphasis on using body weight transfer and a strong, dynamic core.
Style Summary:
This style is designed for players relying on speed and quick transitions, often seen in Korean and Chinese forehand looping styles. It’s optimized for quick exchanges close to the table, where efficiency and timing are critical.
Player 2 (Second Video):
Forehand Loop Style:
• Key Characteristics:
• A larger, more pronounced backswing, generating more power from the full body.
• Heavily uses the shoulders and arm extension to drive the ball with more force.
• Slower recovery due to the longer swing, making this style more suited for mid-distance or power play.
• Primary Strengths:
• A spin-first, power-oriented approach, focusing on maximum ball rotation with significant forward force.
• Greater variation potential between loops (spinny vs. flat).
• Technical Focus:
• Strong arm extension and pronounced follow-through.
• Emphasis on using body momentum with a deep weight transfer from back to front.
• Wrist usage appears more prominent for fine-tuning spin on contact.
Style Summary:
This approach reflects a more European-influenced looping style (or a player focusing on mid-distance power loops), emphasizing spin generation and heavy forehand power over rapid transitions and close-table speed.
Comparison
Aspect Player 1 Player 2
Backswing Short, compact Larger, more pronounced
Stroke Length Compact, minimal follow-through Full extension with a larger arc
Speed vs. Spin Focus Speed-first, compact acceleration Spin-first, emphasizing full body mechanics
Recovery Time Fast recovery for rapid rallies Slower recovery due to longer follow-through
Playing Distance Close-to-the-table Mid-distance
Body Mechanics Strong core and leg-driven movement Full-body rotation with heavy arm engagement
Wrist Engagement Moderate High
Which Style Is Better?
It depends on your playing philosophy.
• Player 1’s compact style is ideal for fast-paced, close-to-the-table exchanges. It suits a player who emphasizes quick attacks, fast recovery, and rapid combination play.
• Player 2’s power-looping style is more suitable for players who prefer to dominate from mid-distance, using heavy spin and power to overwhelm the opponent, but it comes at the cost of recovery speed and quick transitions.
&
2. Pavade's FH topspin
Have a look at these two very distinct FH topspin of these two professional table-tennis player.
I asked Chad to give me a comparison and this is what he said:
The two players in the videos you shared have contrasting forehand styles, reflecting different technical approaches and philosophies in table tennis. Here’s a breakdown and comparison of each player’s forehand style:
Player 1 (First Video):
Forehand Loop Style:
• Key Characteristics:
• A compact and efficient stroke with minimal unnecessary movement.
• Uses shorter backswing and quick acceleration through the ball.
• Generates explosive power from the legs and torso with noticeable rotation of the hips.
• Close-to-the-table positioning with a focus on timing (usually early ball contact).
• Primary Strengths:
• A speed-first approach, emphasizing quick recovery between shots.
• Strong timing and consistency, allowing rapid combinations and counterattacks.
• Technical Focus:
• Wrist engagement is moderate, used to add spin without compromising speed.
• Emphasis on using body weight transfer and a strong, dynamic core.
Style Summary:
This style is designed for players relying on speed and quick transitions, often seen in Korean and Chinese forehand looping styles. It’s optimized for quick exchanges close to the table, where efficiency and timing are critical.
Player 2 (Second Video):
Forehand Loop Style:
• Key Characteristics:
• A larger, more pronounced backswing, generating more power from the full body.
• Heavily uses the shoulders and arm extension to drive the ball with more force.
• Slower recovery due to the longer swing, making this style more suited for mid-distance or power play.
• Primary Strengths:
• A spin-first, power-oriented approach, focusing on maximum ball rotation with significant forward force.
• Greater variation potential between loops (spinny vs. flat).
• Technical Focus:
• Strong arm extension and pronounced follow-through.
• Emphasis on using body momentum with a deep weight transfer from back to front.
• Wrist usage appears more prominent for fine-tuning spin on contact.
Style Summary:
This approach reflects a more European-influenced looping style (or a player focusing on mid-distance power loops), emphasizing spin generation and heavy forehand power over rapid transitions and close-table speed.
Comparison
Aspect Player 1 Player 2
Backswing Short, compact Larger, more pronounced
Stroke Length Compact, minimal follow-through Full extension with a larger arc
Speed vs. Spin Focus Speed-first, compact acceleration Spin-first, emphasizing full body mechanics
Recovery Time Fast recovery for rapid rallies Slower recovery due to longer follow-through
Playing Distance Close-to-the-table Mid-distance
Body Mechanics Strong core and leg-driven movement Full-body rotation with heavy arm engagement
Wrist Engagement Moderate High
Which Style Is Better?
It depends on your playing philosophy.
• Player 1’s compact style is ideal for fast-paced, close-to-the-table exchanges. It suits a player who emphasizes quick attacks, fast recovery, and rapid combination play.
• Player 2’s power-looping style is more suitable for players who prefer to dominate from mid-distance, using heavy spin and power to overwhelm the opponent, but it comes at the cost of recovery speed and quick transitions.
