New Butterfly rubber "Dignics 05" 2019

[igorponger]

Black sponge. Red sponge. What s the difference, other than the coloration?

 

[ttpshot]

Good point. And with Butterfly you don't have to worry about whether or not your National or Provincial H3N is fake (I use provincial H3N BTW and it seems to do the job for me although I have no idea whether or not its the genuine/real article )

Yeah, that's the thing. People seem happy to pay whatever amount for H3N in black market but complain about the price of Tenergy. H3N is darn fine rubber too but at least Butterfly make it avaialble to public (eventualy).

 

[laistrogian]

I have yet to try the tenergy 05 hard which i’m excited about since i left T05 for fastarc g1 due to the sponge hardness

I guess i’ll wait for the D80 for my BH rubber since I felt that T05 lacks a bit of punch power but 80 feels soft at times

 

[TableTennisNerd]

I have yet to try the tenergy 05 hard which i’m excited about since i left T05 for fastarc g1 due to the sponge hardness

I guess i’ll wait for the D80 for my BH rubber since I felt that T05 lacks a bit of punch power but 80 feels soft at times

You are right to be excited; it is godly...

 

[jawien]

Donn is very much a person although he has a unique writing style. He is the author of Principles Approach of Table Tennis (PATT) book: https://www.amazon.com/PATT-Principles-Approach-Table-Tennis/dp/0615308872

Whups : ) Sorry Donn.

 

[Suga D]

Donn are you a bot?

Donn is very much a person although he has a unique writing style. He is the author of Principles Approach of Table Tennis (PATT) book: https://www.amazon.com/PATT-Principles-Approach-Table-Tennis/dp/0615308872

Whups : ) Sorry Donn.

The used font and the wording of the posts made it look suspicious to me as well.

Glad he's not. Welcome to the forum, Donn

 

[jawien]

Donn is very much a person although he has a unique writing style. He is the author of Principles Approach of Table Tennis (PATT) book: https://www.amazon.com/PATT-Principles-Approach-Table-Tennis/dp/0615308872

Is the book written in a similar manner? Just kidding guys ... ; )

 

[jammmail]

Bother, this means my EJ is gonna force me to buy the Harimoto blade alongside two sheets of this damned rubber...

LOL im thinking the same

 

[zeio]

Good point. And with Butterfly you don't have to worry about whether or not your National or Provincial H3N is fake (I use provincial H3N BTW and it seems to do the job for me although I have no idea whether or not its the genuine/real article )

Yeah, that's the thing. People seem happy to pay whatever amount for H3N in black market but complain about the price of Tenergy. H3N is darn fine rubber too but at least Butterfly make it avaialble to public (eventualy).

Just wanted to point out that Provincial and National H3 have been officially available to the public in China since 2006 and 2009, respectively. In recent years, anyone can get them from the official DHS online store on TMall, or if you feel like paying extra for an English interface.

 

[42andbackpains]

And i just started playing again with a new sheet of T05 Hard on my forehand. Now i may have to purchase Dignics 05 for my bh when it comes out. This is not good for my wallet.

 

[ttfunfan]

It seems butterfly players are beginning to use the Dignics now

 

[DonnOlsen]

The used font and the wording of the posts made it look suspicious to me as well.

Glad he's not. Welcome to the forum, Donn

Certainly some good observations. This fosters the memory of two graduate professors recommending to me that I pursue a professional writing career at the time I was thriving with some distinction in the information technology engineering field. Also the idoneous surfacing from (as I recall) Whittier "Of all sad words of tongue and pen, the saddest of these; It might have been."

Thanks

 

[NextLevel]

Is the book written in a similar manner? Just kidding guys ... ; )

Actually, yes.

 

[jawien]

Actually, yes.

Then ... maybe I should buy it. Sorry @Donn, of course : ) I just could not make sense of your writings, just as I could not find the meaning in the futuristic BOT poetry ... looks like, for quite the opposite reasons. Still looking what "Also the idoneous surfacing from ..." might mean ...

 

[Zaid323918]

ZJK and LGY are both using Dignics 05 on the BH according to Btfly

 

[CoolPug7]

Dignics is going to be about 2500 tbh

 

[CoolPug7]

It has been confirmend by butterfly

 

[DonnOlsen]

Then ... maybe I should buy it. Sorry @Donn, of course : ) I just could not make sense of your writings, just as I could not find the meaning in the futuristic BOT poetry ... looks like, for quite the opposite reasons. Still looking what "Also the idoneous surfacing from ..." might mean ...

Ah, very good. This is a remembrance of things past; Sartre's comment that he wouldn't take 100 Hemingways for one Stendhal.

Thanks

 

[Der_Echte]

T05's position was never objectively sacrosanct. Anyone who genuinely believes that is just fooling themselves. It's a great rubber, but no piece of equipment is one-size-fits-all, and table tennis has changed substantially since T05 was introduced. Even without that, there is always room for improvement and thinking that T05 (or anything) is some sort of peak which can never be exceeded is just an artificial ceiling people decide to introduce.

That said, Butterfly have engineered an aura around their products which leads to consumers thinking that their stuff is objectively better than everything else out there. They're the masters of it, and once they achieved their market position they protected it like a crocodile with its eggs, which is only sensible when your retail price is so high (even if I personally dislike it). So they have painted themselves into a corner somewhat, as your post demonstrates. If you convince the market that your product is the absolute best, how do you then convince that same market that something new is better without eroding the original base? You market it as a variation aimed at a different type of player (like T05H) perhaps.

BTY are in a delicate position, but I'm sure they know what they're doing. The dominant product position always gets eroded over time, and they've probably decided now is the time to strike to avoid that.

Yup. You got it.

 

[ttmonster]

@zeio, I might be missing something but I could not find the national version on the official DHS online store link you provided .. just curious .. is it there somewhere ?

Just wanted to point out that Provincial and National H3 have been officially available to the public in China since 2006 and 2009, respectively. In recent years, anyone can get them from the official DHS online store on TMall, or if you feel like paying extra for an English interface.