New Equipment -- Budding EJ

[Conehead]

I use it mostly to evaluate the blade for speed.

But now I have an easier method to compare a new blade:

Keep a reference blade that you know the characteristics of. Keep it naked. Then bounce a ball on both of them and compare. Pretty soon you will learn what the sound and bounce of the new blade means. You will learn how to to pretty accurately judge the speed of the new blade. Also by trying to bend it and compare you can estimate the flex.
It works every time.

Cheers
L-zr

Why not simply measuring the new blade's frequency?

 

[Lazer]

Why not simply measuring the new blade's frequency?

It doesn’t tell you the whole story. You didn’t know this?

Cheers
L-zr

 

[piligrim]

Why not simply measuring the new blade's frequency?

How you could measure frequency in 1970?

 

[Conehead]

It doesn’t tell you the whole story. You didn’t know this?

Cheers
L-zr

Er, nope ... but maybe you can enlighten me?

 

[Conehead]

How you could measure frequency in 1970?

Do you read out of Lazer's post that he intended to determine a blade's speed in 1970?

 

[piligrim]

Do you read out of Lazer's post that he intended to determine a blade's speed in 1970?

you have to read tread from begining

 

[Lazer]

Er, nope ... but maybe you can enlighten me?

Sure no problem.

The frequency depends mostly on the stiffness of the entire construction. But also the hardness matters. Depending on this two blades with the same frequency may differ quite a lot in speed. One good example is a 1-ply hinoki blade. It has a lot lower frequency than its relative speed.

I use 3 factors:
1 - The sound (frequency)
2 - The stiffness
3 - The actual bounce of the ball

Where no:3 is the most importantly but the other two mostly confirms the result.

Cheers
L-zr

 

[Lazer]

you have to read tread from begining

He is making fun of me because I used to play back then. But in reality he is just ignorant…

Cheers
L-zr

 

[piligrim]

He is making fun of me because I used to play back then. But in reality he is just ignorant…

Cheers
L-zr

Hope you are not talking about me. I take you serious

 

[Conehead]

you have to read tread from begining

That's what I did. But his post described what he does in 2025 so I still don't see the connection to 1970.

 

[Conehead]

Depending on this two blades with the same frequency may differ quite a lot in speed.

I doubt it. Define "quite a lot".

I agree the frequency is not the only indicator for speed but it can be measured, that's an advantage for comparison and it's a simple and fast method. In your approach you also have non-measurable indicators depending on your subjective impressions. But if it works for you, why not?

 

[Conehead]

He is making fun of me because I used to play back then. But in reality he is just ignorant…

Cheers
L-zr

I'm not making fun of you. I wanted to understand why you are not going the easy way with measuring the frequency.

However, if you call someone "ignorant" because the person brought your lack of understanding (not in this thread) on the table, you should give the way how you look at people a second thought.

 

[piligrim]

That's what I did. But his post described what he does in 2025 so I still don't see the connection to 1970.

If you don't have sense of humor just ignore

 

[TableTennisBD]

OP Update.

Not to rain in the stimulating discussion. I got myself (Don’t kill me, I am a gentle soul)

Stiga Clipper Wood
FH- Xiom Vega Europe DF
BH- Xiom Vega Europe

Clipper is known to be heavy, but I requested tt11 to keep the blade under 90gram and they did a great job keeping the weight on the lighter side, very comparable to my TB ALC set up. So hopefully switching to that few years later would not be issue from weight adjustment.

Thanks everyone,
especially RN2 and BRS

 

[Tyce]

Enjoy!

 

[Brs]

OP Update.

Not to rain in the stimulating discussion. I got myself (Don’t kill me, I am a gentle soul)

Stiga Clipper Wood
FH- Xiom Vega Europe DF
BH- Xiom Vega Europe

Clipper is known to be heavy, but I requested tt11 to keep the blade under 90gram and they did a great job keeping the weight on the lighter side, very comparable to my TB ALC set up. So hopefully switching to that few years later would not be issue from weight adjustment.

Thanks everyone,
especially RN2 and BRS

Solid choices. I think you will be happy with this setup.

Funny you picked Vega Europe. I stayed mostly out of the sriver argument in this thread because it's pointless. But I also chose Vega Europe when I first got a grippy ESN rubber. It was late 2012 or early 13, so Vega was fairly new tech at the time. I was playing Sunday doubles with three other old guys in a 55+ community rec room in Port St Lucie Florida the first time I used Vega. Same technique as the day before using sriver, but suddenly my forehand had arc. It looped! 100% it was the rubber change, I didn't learn to make spin in my sleep overnight.

My loops sucked of course. But once I had a rubber that made some arc, then I could experiment and make it spinnier, safer, more stable, etc. If I had a coach, or any good players around, or any resources at all, maybe I could also have learned to loop with sriver. But I had none of that and I learned nothing with flextra or sriver but playing flat hits like tennis. That's why I never recommend them to people in our kind of TT Poverty Zone situation.

Good luck to you! Would be fun to have an update in a couple months, see how you are getting on.

 

[Lazer]

I'm not making fun of you. I wanted to understand why you are not going the easy way with measuring the frequency.

However, if you call someone "ignorant" because the person brought your lack of understanding (not in this thread) on the table, you should give the way how you look at people a second thought.

I was referring to pilgrim…

Cheers
L-zr

 

[Lazer]

I doubt it. Define "quite a lot".

More than a li little and less than a huge amount…

Cheers
L-zr

 

[Conehead]

I was referring to pilgrim…

Got it. Sorry that I misunderstood.