Playing against long side spin serves

[schrodingerskoalabear]

Hello everyone!

I am a right-sided player who struggles against long hook serves + side spins (turning to my left) on my BH.

For side-spin, my understanding is I try to kind of drive it back in their BH directly but I am always tentative and that messes up my return more.
For hook serves (turning to my right), I try to loop it back but it ends up in the net mostly which is weird because I swear it is topspin ( I might be reading it wrong).

I came across this video:

My understanding is that the coach is wants us to drive the ball with a very brush opposite to the spin. Am I getting this right for the FH?

How do the learnings from the video translate to my BH serve receive against long not very fast (a) side-spin and (b) hook serve.

Any insights or feedback would be highly appreciated!

 

[turbozed]

Hello everyone!

I am a right-sided player who struggles against long hook serves + side spins (turning to my left) on my BH.

For side-spin, my understanding is I try to kind of drive it back in their BH directly but I am always tentative and that messes up my return more.
For hook serves (turning to my right), I try to loop it back but it ends up in the net mostly which is weird because I swear it is topspin ( I might be reading it wrong).

I came across this video:

My understanding is that the coach is wants us to drive the ball with a very brush opposite to the spin. Am I getting this right for the FH?

How do the learnings from the video translate to my BH serve receive against long not very fast (a) side-spin and (b) hook serve.

Any insights or feedback would be highly appreciated!

No he's saying to go with the spin. If you go against the spin then the two forces abruptly collide resulting in lack of control.

For pendulum serves you want to put a small amount of fade action on it. For reverse (hook, BH, tomahawk) spin you want to use a hooking action. That's for the FH.

With BH it's the other way around where you want to hook it and keep it spinning clockwise (from top down view of ball) for pendulum serves and fade it for reverse serves spinning counterclockwise.

 

[schrodingerskoalabear]

Hmm. I think it makes sense; what do you mean by fade action? Kind of directing the spin the opponent BH?

I need to practise it and it does seem a little counterintuitive to me given how he is hitting his FH to the sidespin.

 

[turbozed]

Hmm. I think it makes sense; what do you mean by fade action? Kind of directing the spin the opponent BH?

I need to practise it and it does seem a little counterintuitive to me given how he is hitting his FH to the sidespin.

A fade is like a wiping motion. Imagine you're spinning a basketball on your left index finger and the ball is spinning from right to left. To keep it spinning you need to hit it with a wiping motion.

 

[Der_Echte]

You are using the Donic Persson Power Play. Blade is total rubbish. Internet TT forum AI sez get a W968 and Diginiski 09C on your BH and it will be unfair.

 

[exotick]

With all due respect.. very unnecessary comment. Hope you're having a good day.

 

[NextLevel]

With all due respect.. very unnecessary comment. Hope you're having a good day.

It's a similar comment to when someone who has a blue Lexus drives past someone else with a blue Lexus of the same make and model and tells them they have a crappy car and need to change it. Better than complimenting them in some way I guess...

 

[schrodingerskoalabear]

A fade is like a wiping motion. Imagine you're spinning a basketball on your left index finger and the ball is spinning from right to left. To keep it spinning you need to hit it with a wiping motion.

This is a helpful image, thanks!