Please make a 50d dragon grip!

[TensorBackhand]

Dragon grip is an excellent rubber with power and speed. I like it for both fh and bh!

I wish it was available in 50d for bh! Why hasnt any brand done this yet!? It would be awesome.

I know there is dna hybrid at 50d, but its not the same as it is much slower with less rebound.

Tibhar MK is ok, but still much slower.

Dynaryz zgx is ok, but it also feels slower than DG.

I want a 50d fast hybrid

 

[Snek]

Xiom Vega Asia H? Andro Nuzn 50?

 

[TensorBackhand]

Xiom Vega Asia? Andro Nuzn 50?

Is NUZN a hybrid? I thought its just a tensor. Vega Asia I believe is not hybrid

 

[Wrighty67]

Blue star A2

 

[Tiz]

NUZN 50 is slightly sticky

 

[Brozi]

Is NUZN a hybrid? I thought its just a tensor. Vega Asia I believe is not hybrid

Vega Asia H is a hybrid, although not that sticky.

 

[Snek]

Is NUZN a hybrid? I thought its just a tensor. Vega Asia I believe is not hybrid

Sorry, I forgot to add H. Xiom vega Asia H is 50d esn hybrid with good price(45€). Nuzn is ESN Hybrid too I believe

 

[TensorBackhand]

Sorry, I forgot to add H. Xiom vega Asia H is 50d esn hybrid with good price(45€). Nuzn is ESN Hybrid too I believe

Are they fast/bouncy though?

What I found with some other 47d and 50d hybrids is that they are quite slow

 

[Peter93]

Dragon grip is an excellent rubber with power and speed. I like it for both fh and bh!

I wish it was available in 50d for bh! Why hasnt any brand done this yet!? It would be awesome.

I know there is dna hybrid at 50d, but its not the same as it is much slower with less rebound.

Tibhar MK is ok, but still much slower.

Dynaryz zgx is ok, but it also feels slower than DG.

I want a 50d fast hybrid

Hybrid MK Pro is 51 deg and rated by Tibhar as faster than the regular.

 

[JJ Ng]

Get a hurricane neo 37 degree on the BH and hit it harder. I have not been happy with any hybrid so far (I use my clubmate's dragon grip briefly but it was on my clubmate's blade so I could not tell). Personally for hybrid, I have tried Rakza Z, K2 (ordered from Aliexpress), Tibhar Hybrid K1 European Version, and Dignics 09c. I have tried Dragon Grip and DNA hybird and K3 on other people's blades. Not that impressed. Out of all of them, Tibhar Hybrid K1 European Version is the worse. There is zero tackiness. It is not even tensor. I don't even know why I bought it except for the stupid marketing.

If you want tacky, Chinese rubber is still the way to go. I hate this hybrid marketing crap.

 

[TensorBackhand]

Get a hurricane neo 37 degree on the BH and hit it harder. I have not been happy with any hybrid so far (I use my clubmate's dragon grip briefly but it was on my clubmate's blade so I could not tell). Personally for hybrid, I have tried Rakza Z, K2 (ordered from Aliexpress), Tibhar Hybrid K1 European Version, and Dignics 09c. I have tried Dragon Grip and DNA hybird and K3 on other people's blades. Not that impressed. Out of all of them, Tibhar Hybrid K1 European Version is the worse. There is zero tackiness. It is not even tensor. I don't even know why I bought it except for the stupid marketing.

If you want tacky, Chinese rubber is still the way to go. I hate this hybrid marketing crap.

It's not the tackiness that I want. It's the rebound/responsiveness that I want.

DG is very responsive, which I like. It has more grip than regular tensor. But it is quite hard for bh use.

 

[TensorBackhand]

Hybrid MK Pro is 51 deg and rated by Tibhar as faster than the regular.

i wonder how the rebound/responsiveness compares to DG

 

[andzejgolot]

mk pro is fast and it is not sticky and not suited for backhand imo. It has famous dwell time and ball sink so for me it is not bouncy enough

 

[Amayzde]

Try the Stiga DNA Hybrid M. Even thought its softer then you discribed (47,5), Im sure you will like that one.

 

[TensorBackhand]

Try the Stiga DNA Hybrid M. Even thought its softer then you discribed (47,5), Im sure you will like that one.

yes, I have that on one of my setups right now. It's just OK for me. The grip is good, the hardness is just right, but it is a lot slower than Dragon Grip. I even tried boosting it, but its still rather slow.

 

[K.K]

if you want responsiveness then maybe you don't need a hybrid on backhand then? what about a really grippy tensor like tenergy05, nittaku g-1, vega x or even something even more responsive like tibhar MX-D? did you tried that and if you did what problems you had then?

 

[Tembel]

Dragon grip is an excellent rubber with power and speed. I like it for both fh and bh!

I wish it was available in 50d for bh! Why hasnt any brand done this yet!? It would be awesome.

I know there is dna hybrid at 50d, but its not the same as it is much slower with less rebound.

Tibhar MK is ok, but still much slower.

Dynaryz zgx is ok, but it also feels slower than DG.

I want a 50d fast hybrid

People have picked up that Stiga has registered that they will release the evolution of Dragon grip soon with different sponge hardness. So I think you just have to be a bit patient.

 

[Peter93]

People have picked up that Stiga has registered that they will release the evolution of Dragon grip soon with different sponge hardness. So I think you just have to be a bit patient.

This was posted back in January, and it's approaching the end of the year, so maybe sooner rather than later.

 

[tzifos]

K3 FX, available in 48 degrees. https://tibhar.info/en/shop/hybrid-k3-fx/

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Dragon grip is an excellent rubber with power and speed. I like it for both fh and bh!

I wish it was available in 50d for bh! Why hasnt any brand done this yet!? It would be awesome.

I know there is dna hybrid at 50d, but its not the same as it is much slower with less rebound.

Tibhar MK is ok, but still much slower.

Dynaryz zgx is ok, but it also feels slower than DG.

I want a 50d fast hybrid

so say you have a valid point
have you made contact with stiga about it?