PSA: DO NOT REBOOST your h3 EVER......

[Gekko]

If you like your rubbers hard why boost at all ?????
I also like my H3 hard and I give 1 layer of Seamoon basically to transform the original "hard leather-like sponge" into a real sponge.
All I need.

Nah, boosting is more than just softening the sponge. It's like the rubber comes alive when it's stretched out.
It gives the best of both worlds...Super stable short game and blocking (hardness) and a good grabbing feeling (high tension) when loop driving

 

[latej]

wow you guys still enjoy roasting the 2200 god? i thought this topic is done already

You're right... I gave this a pause... But just returned from the training, enjoying beer... But anyway, giving it another pause... ;-) Cheers.

 

[Tomboov247]

Sigh.... that's cuz you didn't boost it properly. So here's the thing, if you boost your rubber properly and you start hitting with it. If you take your rubber off, even without reboosting, the rubber will "enlarge" because you "打开" that h3, if you glue it back you can cut off part of the rubber etc.... By taking the rubber off you released all the tension and allow the rubber to expand which is NOT what you want.

Therefore, if you boost and glue the h3 rubber. The tension will ALWAYS be there until it bubbles. so if you boosted and glued your h3 properly the rubber STAYS there.....


I just simplify for everyone in my post but i've EJ'd alot. I know what i'm talking about. Sealing blades, boosting with different crap etc...

Nicely explained, totally agree with you. I tried reboosting once and threw the rubber away after one session, horrible.


On another note, h3 national blue sponge 39 degrees - one or two layers of falco long?

I don't like soft rubbers, but I need them dynamic. I don't need catapult, but I want them reactive to my wrist movement

 

[SlowPower]

Sims gave you a chance and you wasted it But don't worry, soon someone else will give you another chance... And so on, until you get it ;-)

EDIT: Btw., I just checked the percentile transformation in the other thread (https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/us-ratings-to-uk.35097/post-478495) and according that, I should be around your "2200 god" level ;-)

So we have more gods than we had imagined ^^

 

[Sims]

So?
Sure you have the proper rights to give advice, but you are missing 2 things here.
1 .You didn't disagree with me on reboosting h3
2. you are not a h3 user.

Therefore my statement still holds true. No player that actually know how to play and have the proper credentials will advise h3 user to reboost their rubber after weeks/months of play. That's shitty advice. It ruins rubber, blade, waste glue, time and money.

If I'm only missing two things then you are missing much more 😉
But for the record
1. I do disagree with you on reboost of H3, many have done it and like the results and,
2. While I don't use it now I have used it in the past before setting on euro Tensors, so long ago now that I can't even compare it in my head to my Rakza Z but I'm considering to try it again soon.

Anyway kid, I think you assume too much and seem to like the agro, argument etc so,just as you paid little attention to the point of my initial post, I'm sure most have stopped listening to you also 🤷
Best 👍

 

[ThePongCommenter]

Therefore my statement still holds true. No player that actually know how to play and have the proper credentials will advise h3 user to reboost their rubber after weeks/months of play. That's shitty advice. It ruins rubber, blade, waste glue, time and money.

Once again you are incorrect on this. There are plenty of high level Chinese players who reboost, you just haven't spoken to them. All you are really proving is that you don't get to speak to many of the actual 2600+ gods or else you would know that they fall into both camps on the reboosting topic. And also probably because the 2600+ actual gods quickly turn away from smartass know-it-all 2200 poser gods except for the few who you probably paid some money and impressed this opinion onto you.

I mean, here is Gan reboosting a used rubber in his boosting tutorial video and even providing specific instructions on what to do when re-boosting (9:30) instead of boosting an unused rubber.

 

[scrubplayer]

Once again you are incorrect on this. There are plenty of high level Chinese players who reboost, you just haven't spoken to them. All you are really proving is that you don't get to speak to many of the actual 2600+ gods or else you would know that they fall into both camps on the reboosting topic. And also probably because the 2600+ actual gods quickly turn away from smartass know-it-all 2200 poser gods except for the few who you probably paid some money and impressed this opinion onto you.

I mean, here is Gan reboosting a used rubber in his boosting tutorial video and even providing specific instructions on what to do when re-boosting (9:30) instead of boosting an unused rubber.

You have no idea what you are talking about. Gan isn't 'even reboosting an h3, he's using some weird off brand rubbers which can have different properties. When Gan is training seriously he won't be reboosting his h3 after weeks/months of play.

 

[scrubplayer]

If I'm only missing two things then you are missing much more 😉
But for the record
1. I do disagree with you on reboost of H3, many have done it and like the results and,
2. While I don't use it now I have used it in the past before setting on euro Tensors, so long ago now that I can't even compare it in my head to my Rakza Z but I'm considering to try it again soon.

Anyway kid, I think you assume too much and seem to like the agro, argument etc so,just as you paid little attention to the point of my initial post, I'm sure most have stopped listening to you also 🤷
Best 👍

1. I do disagree with you on reboost of H3, many have done it and like the results and, <-- but you yourself did not disagree. You simply can't because you aren't an h3 user
as for your point 2. If you are consider h3 again, then heed my advice it will save you time, money, rubbers, and blades.

You are welcome

 

[ThePongCommenter]

You have no idea what you are talking about. Gan isn't 'even reboosting an h3, he's using some weird off brand rubbers which can have different properties. When Gan is training seriously he won't be reboosting his h3 after weeks/months of play.

I 3-0 2200 "gods" and use Hurricane. I talk to way more 2600s that are H3 users than you do. You have no idea what you are talking about, you just got a few opinions on something and think it's a universal truth. And again that's coming from someone who personally doesn't reboost.

You have no clue what Gan would or wouldn't do, but considering he's a lifelong H3 user I really doubt that he would have made a special section of his tutorial to explain how to re-boost already used rubbers, if he wouldn't advise that, don't ya think?

 

[scrubplayer]

Nicely explained, totally agree with you. I tried reboosting once and threw the rubber away after one session, horrible.


On another note, h3 national blue sponge 39 degrees - one or two layers of falco long?

I don't like soft rubbers, but I need them dynamic. I don't need catapult, but I want them reactive to my wrist movement

39 degree bs is almost unplayable for FH. It lacks the power even if you boost properly. Try 40 degree.
As for boosting method, don't use falco tempo long. No one uses it on h3. If you can read/understand chinese, just follow the video from my original post. That boosting method is consistent among all the pro h3 users.

 

[scrubplayer]

I 3-0 2200 "gods" and use Hurricane. I talk to way more 2600s that are H3 users than you do. You have no idea what you are talking about, you just got a few opinions on something and think it's a universal truth. And again that's coming from someone who personally doesn't reboost.

You have no clue what Gan would or wouldn't do, but considering he's a lifelong H3 user I really doubt that he would have made a special section of his tutorial to explain how to re-boost already used rubbers, if he wouldn't advise that, don't ya think?

2600 chinese coach reboosting their h3 after weeks/months of play? Ain't no way that's happening. if they haven't bubble it by then that means they ain't training and they won't even bother taking the rubber off and reboost. They might "reboost" it because they felt it was too hard after a session or two. That just means they didn't boost it to their liking initially, not reboosting after it was playing perfectly.


You 3-0 me? maybe true maybe not, post a vid or link of your rating before making such claim.

 

[ThePongCommenter]

They might "reboost" it because they felt it was too hard after a session or two.

Yep, so what happened to "once it comes off the racket then throw it in the trash"?

 

[Sims]

1. I do disagree with you on reboost of H3, many have done it and like the results and, <-- but you yourself did not disagree. You simply can't because you aren't an h3 user
as for your point 2. If you are consider h3 again, then heed my advice it will save you time, money, rubbers, and blades.

You are welcome

Dude, cmon, I'm already ignoring you 😂

I know that YOU think reboosting is a waste of time, you've given your reasons and I respect that. But I've read plenty of H3 threads and listened to many say they reboost and get another 2-3 mths from the rubber. So it is possible for me to decide you are wrong, simply because you don't show the intelligence or have the grace to recognise that other people can experience things differently than you do and that there may be value in accepting that rather than calling everyone an idiot.
In matters of practical experience there is a subjective truth for everyone... even if you don't believe it.
So I've already decided that since there is an obvious benefit in it for some that yeah, I'll probably try it before throwing it out.
H3 provincial Blue are €70 each last I looked, no fn way I'd throw it out without seeing what happens!
You also are welcome - my welcome comes without heavy sarcasm 😉

 

[scrubplayer]

Yep, so what happened to "once it comes off the racket then throw it in the trash"?

That just means they didn't boost it properly the first time. Quoting from my original post

"However, if you boosted properly and it felt great. then don't "犯贱" and take rubber off and reboost it cuz why not. "

 

[scrubplayer]

Dude, cmon, I'm already ignoring you 😂

I know that YOU think reboosting is a waste of time, you've given your reasons and I respect that. But I've read plenty of H3 threads and listened to many say they reboost and get another 2-3 mths from the rubber. So it is possible for me to decide you are wrong, simply because you don't show the intelligence or have the grace to recognise that other people can experience things differently than you do and that there may be value in accepting that rather than calling everyone an idiot.
In matters of practical experience there is a subjective truth for everyone... even if you don't believe it.
So I've already decided that since there is an obvious benefit in it for some that yeah, I'll probably try it before throwing it out.
H3 provincial Blue are €70 each last I looked, no fn way I'd throw it out without seeing what happens!

You are missing the point of my post. My post is to help people save $$ and time and deter anyone who doesn't know what they are talking about giving advice. If you go online and read some garbage about reboosting an h3 that's been playing perfectly, you will just find that rubber will become trash instead of still being on your paddle perfectly fine until it gets a bubble.


If ur rich with time like me and want to embark to an EJ journey (i thoroughly enjoyed it btw) then sure go ahead, scratch that itch of taking a perfectly fine h3 off your paddle, reboost it and trash it in the process.

 

[Sims]

You are missing the point of my post. My post is to help people save $$ and time and deter anyone who doesn't know what they are talking about giving advice. If you go online and read some garbage about reboosting an h3 that's been playing perfectly, you will just find that rubber will become trash instead of still being on your paddle perfectly fine until it gets a bubble.


If ur rich with time like me and want to embark to an EJ journey (i thoroughly enjoyed it btw) then sure go ahead, scratch that itch of taking a perfectly fine h3 off your paddle, reboost it and trash it in the process.

I'd only take it from the blade when the boosting is wearing off, of course.
I wouldnt remove a rubber that is playing perfectly. Why would you assume I'd do that?
If that's been the misunderstanding then I agree, don't remove a rubber that's playing brilliantly.
I am referring to a scenario where the initial boost wears off, which it does by the way, and then trying again to reboost before buying a new rubber.
Maybe chill out and read this?

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/lessons-i-learned-in-shanghai-about-boosting-and-equipment-in-general.33957/page-6

It shouldn't horrify you to know some people do things differently than you do.
Over

 

[scrubplayer]

I'd only take it from the blade when the boosting is wearing off, obviously.
Maybe chill out and read this? It shouldn't horrify you to know some people do things differently than you do.
Seriously tho, do you have this same attitude in everything you do? How is that working out for you? Are you struggling to improve 10% over 6 years is every walk of life??
If so maybe you've just discovered why!! 🤯

10% over 6 years is not how you measure it. When i first reach 2100+ it was an readjustment. My current 2200 level rating is not from a pass2 readjustment, i climb it the hard way.
And why I struggle? it was because i was ejing. Had i not reboost crap and try this and try that i would've reached this level way sooner. And save a lot of $$$ too.

 

[Sims]

10% over 6 years is not how you measure it. When i first reach 2100+ it was an readjustment. My current 2200 level rating is not from a pass2 readjustment, i climb it the hard way.
And why I struggle? it was because i was ejing. Had i not reboost crap and try this and try that i would've reached this level way sooner. And save a lot of $$$ too.

Fair enough 👍
That was a bit of a cheap shot anyway so I take it back.
Anyway, I'm outta here for now so all the best.

 

[scrubplayer]

I'd only take it from the blade when the boosting is wearing off, of course.
I wouldnt remove a rubber that is playing perfectly. Why would you assume I'd do that?
If that's been the misunderstanding then I agree, don't remove a rubber that's playing brilliantly.
I am referring to a scenario where the initial boost wears off, which it does by the way, and then trying again to reboost before buying a new rubber.
Maybe chill out and read this?

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/lessons-i-learned-in-shanghai-about-boosting-and-equipment-in-general.33957/page-6

It shouldn't horrify you to know some people do things differently than you do.
Over

Boosting effect might wear off but the rubber is still very playable. Si Zhi Gao's paddle(2500 player) was untouched since dec 2023 and its still very playable, comparable to mine. If you take the rubber off and reboost it, the rubber will be trashed and become unplayable.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

wow you guys still enjoy roasting the 2200 god? i thought this topic is done already

Just look at both threads
He himself doesn’t know when to give up being god, haha
Well, delusional god and he thinks he is doing mankind a big favour by saving time and money because no 2200 rating or higher will post on ttd to help others

With his logic, I must stand here to say all hobby players must change H3 every 2 weeks and have 26 sheets a year 😂
Together with that and not training 40 hours a week is the reason why it took him 10 years to reach 2200 🤦‍♂️