Ridiculous reverse pendulum serve secrets

[blahness]

Damn this was super eye opening and inspiring, I might go try his method of serving reverse pendulum too.

 

[latej]

Lately I struggle with bringing good backspin on the RP serve and I had it in the back of my mind for some time... Side and top-spin is no problem... I even tried to contact the ball like from bottom up on the further side, before I watched this, but still not there... So this is like for me ;-)

 

[mcfly]

same motion for back spin - let the ball roll for top spin
it takes quite a bit to practice but it works!

 

[latej]

same motion for back spin - let the ball roll for top spin
it takes quite a bit to practice but it works!

I know, but can't achieve yet... In the meantime I realized that I keep my elbow too high, and then I simply can't achieve the "horizontal" bat, so I lower it now for backspin, which gives a chance for recognition... Also it matters where is the ball relative to my body at the contact - if it is more front, I can more easily make backspin or side-backspin, if it is less front (far from table rel. speaking), it is hard to try backspin for me... So I need to advance in steps ;-)

 

[blahness]

same motion for back spin - let the ball roll for top spin
it takes quite a bit to practice but it works!

Yes and also almost the same blade angle! I didnt realize it was possible to disguise reverse pendulum like this.

For me the major takeaway is to scoop it upwards. This makes the spin a lot stronger for the sideunderspin serve (i suspect if forward momentum was reduced it would actually be a ghost serve). Also the upwards movement can easily be used to generate sidetopspin. And this seems quite easy to keep short.

Previously i felt like hook serves were way better than reverse pendulum because I could do very different spins with same blade angle and movement, but this video kinda changed my mind.

Also, look at how Yuya just does a heavy chop dropshot casually off a heavy topspin ball served to him, that was crazy touch like Fang Bo. On another video he demonstrates how he adds heavy underspin to a short push which was super interesting which I only dared to do against sidetopspin, never against underspin (that extra brushing will just lead to me pushing to the base of the net). So apparently he also scoops the ball from underneath and rubs it hard upwards and to the right side to achieve this additional brush without netting the receive.

 

[Amayzde]

I will definitely give the scooping technique a try. I have been abusing the reverse pendulum lately. Even though my regular pendulum serves are much better when it comes to spin and variation. So many people seem to not know how to deal with the reverse. Especially the fast long one, they don’t see it coming.

 

[andzejgolot]

Yuya Oshima was top 20 player using Mizuno equipment, WHO cares about Butterfly

 

[Sims]

same motion for back spin - let the ball roll for top spin
it takes quite a bit to practice but it works!

For me, quite a bit = 6 months or more!
Man I need a coach 😂

 

[blahness]

I will definitely give the scooping technique a try. I have been abusing the reverse pendulum lately. Even though my regular pendulum serves are much better when it comes to spin and variation. So many people seem to not know how to deal with the reverse. Especially the fast long one, they don’t see it coming.

Yeah most ppl are quite bad at receiving hook or reverse pendulum serves. For me just abusing short FH, fast long to BH/middle already gains a huge amount of easy points, it is also quite unsolvable because a lot of players dont have the correct footwork to cover these areas. Also it is not so easy to receive it with FH because it is the unnatural angle (unless they have trained against it specifically before).

 

[_ak]

I am getting better with serving backspin, still quite often dump it to the net.
Taking the bat back to react on receive is another problem 🤣