Article in the nytimes talking about the players disatisfaction with the DHS balls in Rio.
please provide! any kind of information about olympics (especially "backstage" incidents) is always interesting
(TL-Note: The german sports system is really harsh. If they don t achieve at least 1 medal the budget cut is serious. The future is also not bright. In 2020 pretty much only Ovcharov is strong enough to be able to win a medal. 2024 is going to be even worse depending on how much of a force Ovcharov still is. But there are promising talents for 2028 or maybe some other player step up thier game at lot but i doubt that. So it would be really important for the future of german table tennis to win a medal in the team competition)
I wish more people appreciated this when saying things like there should be 3 Chinese in the Olympics singles.
I wasn't aware of that fact. Actually, I've learned a lot since I started participating in this forum more actively.
Still, knowing the outcome of this year's singles event, participation of 3 Chinese players wouldn't change the fact that 2 German top players were eliminated by non-Chinese, right?
Anyway, I really hope Germans win a medal, if only for the sake of German table tennis.
Which is why other countries like Germany have thin room for error. The people who do Olympic budgeting don't look at those details. They just say that there is no medal so they cut the budget. I remember them refusing to send Germans in tennis because they didn't expect medals.
That is why I say, limiting Chinese is not solving your problem out, is it?
Chinese from 3 to 2, 2 to 1, or simply Chinese don't play TT any more, Will NOT solve world table tennis problem which is all based on a national TT body problem from foundation level.
If Germany only rely on less Chinese playing to get a medal, then simply Germany is not improving.
It should rather be, bring on all Chinese, and Germany can win Gold
This should be the focus, not limiting them.
For the sake of Olympic Medals, I truly believe table tennis is big enough of a sport to have more than 4 gold medals.
This should be the solution (not making it less).
I recall it was 5 Gold before with 2 x Singles, 2 x Doubles and 1 x mixed doubles.
I think it should be 7 Gold medals, with the above 5 and adding the teams in.
This should help the sport and medal count
Whatever event you create, you have to limit the number of national entries into it. If creating more events allows for that sure. But it solved the problem in 2012 for Ovtcharov and in 2016 for Mizutani. Anyone who is pretending it did not solve the problem is just trying to be blind. The problem is not playing TT more. The problem is budgeting tied to Olympic performance. Other events do it as well.
Trying to solve the solution by limiting your opponents to face you is blind in the brain.
It is running away from the fact that you are simply not good enough to face competition.
The earlier people realize this, the sooner there will be a solution
Remember, table tennis is table tennis
Olympic is just a tournament
How was life prior 88?
In many sporting codes, Olympic did not showcase the top players.
Some don't want to go
Some are too pro to go (as Olympic is more for amateurs), some are too old to take part (U23 in football)
If your country only relies on NOC budget for table tennis, then trust me, your country is screwed for sure
How my brain works does differ to yours.
I see Football not in the Olympics, and they are the biggest sports.
I see Basketball not really fun in the Olympics, but they have NBA
I see baseball no where in the Olympics, but there are lots of pro leagues in the world
Olympic to me is not the saviour to table tennis, but its rules will hurt the sport
Sure, because you are always thinking about China. All the American sports you listed are team sports where there is only one country per sport (by the way, they would all love to be in the Olympics). In just about every individual sport out there, there is a limit of some kind on individual participants once the medals are dominated by a single country. Table tennis is no different. You don't need an Olympic event to save you, but it gives people a chance to see events they don't look at all the time, especially when their country advances deep and has a chance to medal.
I am always thinking about China - no you are wrong again
Individual Sport limitation - yes you are right, and all other sports are also complaining of this limitation, so this is not unique to table tennis, but a whole problem from IOC vs sporting codes.
Maybe Olympic should just stop all individuals and just focus on team events for everything, then there is no more argument.
Honestly speaking, Olympic is just overhype money making tournament.
Who actually benefits from all these costs?
Now lets come back to table tennis, if you truly think getting a medal will save table tennis in your country, then you are very wrong.
Go and look at table tennis history and see all those years of winners and you can understand how table tennis can be strong in all countries,
My argument stands - If your country only relies on NOC budget for table tennis, then trust me, your country is screwed for sure
The argument is silly. Remove the word "only", and the silliness of the argument reveals itself.
If your country relies on NOC budget for table tennis, then trust me, your country is screwed for sure
You may think my knowledge and focus is China.
I coach in South Africa, i'ved coached in Namibia
I've been to Argentina, Paraguay, Brazil, England, France, Singapore, Hong Kong, Philippines, Taiwan, Australia and i've analysis all the success vs failures for table tennis there, and I see that NOC for table tennis is not the solution for our sport.
What is your argument on why medal is the solution for table tennis?
Looking forward to your enlightenment