Rosewood nct VII fake or real ?

[kudo]

Hello I wanted to know if the stiga rosewood nct VII that I bought is indeed a real one because I don't see on the handle, the little dot at the top right of the "a" of "stiga" which is supposed to be there, so it's a manufacturing error, have they not made the little dot at the top right for x amount of time, is it an oversight, or is it just fake wood

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

Bonjour je voulais savoir si le stiga rosewood nct VII que j'ai acheté est bien un vrai car je ne vois pas sur le manche, le petit point en haut à droite du "a" de "stiga" qui est censé être là, alors c'est une erreur de fabrication, n'ont-ils plus fait le petit point en haut à droite depuis x temps, est-ce un oubli, ou c'est juste un faux bois

For those who don't understand French: Here is Google Translate's translation of the text from Kudo's post:

"Hello I wanted to know if the stiga rosewood nct VII that I bought is indeed a real one because I don't see on the handle, the little dot at the top right of the "a" of "stiga" which is supposed to be there, so it's a manufacturing error, have they not made the little dot at the top right for x amount of time, is it an oversight, or is it just fake wood"

Kudo, if you can, post in English. If you can't, use something like Google Translate to translate into English.

Thank you.

 

[kudo]

For those who don't understand French: Here is Google Translate's translation of the text from Kudo's post:

"Hello I wanted to know if the stiga rosewood nct VII that I bought is indeed a real one because I don't see on the handle, the little dot at the top right of the "a" of "stiga" which is supposed to be there, so it's a manufacturing error, have they not made the little dot at the top right for x amount of time, is it an oversight, or is it just fake wood"

Kudo, if you can, post in English. If you can't, use something like Google Translate to translate into English.

Thank you.

thank you I changed the language

 

[vivalavida320315]

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Hello I wanted to know if the stiga rosewood nct VII that I bought is indeed a real one because I don't see on the handle, the little dot at the top right of the "a" of "stiga" which is supposed to be there, so it's a manufacturing error, have they not made the little dot at the top right for x amount of time, is it an oversight, or is it just fake wood

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i think the new versions don't have the ® anymore

 

[kudo]

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i think the new versions don't have the ® anymore

Is this one old too? in this photo there is the point and also the M of "Made" is below the "V", while in mine it is below the "T"

 

[Gozo Aruna]

I've always have a soft spot for Rosewood. It is a beautiful blade.

 

[\_Kairos_/]

Hello I wanted to know if the stiga rosewood nct VII that I bought is indeed a real one because I don't see on the handle, the little dot at the top right of the "a" of "stiga" which is supposed to be there, so it's a manufacturing error, have they not made the little dot at the top right for x amount of time, is it an oversight, or is it just fake wood

Is this one old too? in this photo there is the point and also the M of "Made" is below the "V", while in mine it is below the "T" View attachment 29882

General rule regarding Stiga blades: If the build quality is bad and if there are manufactoring errors...then the blade is genuine. If the built quality is better with no manufactoring errors, it's a fake one...

Just kidding. At first glance the blade looks genuine. The rosewood, being a rather old blade, has two versions, as far as I know. The old one had a plastic lens and the NCT coating was very shiny and therefore visible. The new version, which started about 5-6 years ago, has a metal tag and the NCT coating is apparently thinner because it is not really visible.
You seem to have the new version, and the additional pic you posted is also the newer version. While your blade looks genuine at first glance, the slight but still obvious misalignment of the letters is even for Stiga, with their oftentimes "dubious" quality control, a little strange! After all, these tags are mass produced after an original print. Misalignments of that sort shouldn't happen usually. But then again: stranger things have happened before and even Butterfly had a famous spelling error on the blade face of the Viscaria (around since 1993) which was corrected in 2015/16, I think.

Questions:
1. Where did you buy the blade?
2. Were (or are) the edges on the wings very sharpe that make the blade somewhat uncomfortable to hold? Stiga doesn't sand the wings, so it can be difficult/uncomfortable for the thumb and the index finger. Even fake blades or clones pay a little more attention to that...
3. Have you played with blade yet? If so, did you notice a distinctive hollow plong coming from the blade, and did you notice strong vibrations in your palm area? Stiga uses a soft glue for their all wood blades and they (more often than not) hollow our the handle caps; sometimes they also hollow ot the neck area (the area between the handle caps), giving the blades a distinctive audible and sensitive feedback. Fake blades, clones, replicas etc. usually don't bother with the hollowing out of handles; these blades tend to feel a bit more solid and harder (also because of the glue) than genuine Stiga blades.
4. Can you post some additional close ups, particularly from the side of the handle and the bottom of the handle? Maybe this will give us more impressions und infos.

 

[kudo]

General rule regarding Stiga blades: If the build quality is bad and if there are manufactoring errors...then the blade is genuine. If the built quality is better with no manufactoring errors, it's a fake one...

Just kidding. At first glance the blade looks genuine. The rosewood, being a rather old blade, has two versions, as far as I know. The old one had a plastic lens and the NCT coating was very shiny and therefore visible. The new version, which started about 5-6 years ago, has a metal tag and the NCT coating is apparently thinner because it is not really visible.
You seem to have the new version, and the additional pic you posted is also the newer version. While your blade looks genuine at first glance, the slight but still obvious misalignment of the letters is even for Stiga, with their oftentimes "dubious" quality control, a little strange! After all, these tags are mass produced after an original print. Misalignments of that sort shouldn't happen usually. But then again: stranger things have happened before and even Butterfly had a famous spelling error on the blade face of the Viscaria (around since 1993) which was corrected in 2015/16, I think.

Questions:
1. Where did you buy the blade?
2. Were (or are) the edges on the wings very sharpe that make the blade somewhat uncomfortable to hold? Stiga doesn't sand the wings, so it can be difficult/uncomfortable for the thumb and the index finger. Even fake blades or clones pay a little more attention to that...
3. Have you played with blade yet? If so, did you notice a distinctive hollow plong coming from the blade, and did you notice strong vibrations in your palm area? Stiga uses a soft glue for their all wood blades and they (more often than not) hollow our the handle caps; sometimes they also hollow ot the neck area (the area between the handle caps), giving the blades a distinctive audible and sensitive feedback. Fake blades, clones, replicas etc. usually don't bother with the hollowing out of handles; these blades tend to feel a bit more solid and harder (also because of the glue) than genuine Stiga blades.
4. Can you post some additional close ups, particularly from the side of the handle and the bottom of the handle? Maybe this will give us more impressions und infos.

Hi, I bought it from Dandoy Sports, one of the blades where I didn't have to sand because it was very comfortable in the hand. I also sent an email to stiga, they tell me it looks real, I think some of the newer models like you said are made without the little dot

 

[\_Kairos_/]

OK, if Stiga themselves basically confirms it and since you have bought the blade at a known and reputable dealer, we can essentially rule out that it's a fake one. Have fun with it.

 

[khayalmania]

Is this one old too? in this photo there is the point and also the M of "Made" is below the "V", while in mine it is below the "T" View attachment 29882

This one looks similar to what I have. In both my Rosewood VII and V, the 'M' is below the 'V', like here.

Mine were from a verified Stiga retailer, so I'm pretty confident they're not fake, but your post has shaken my confidence a bit ngl,..

 

[kudo]

OK, if Stiga themselves basically confirms it and since you have bought the blade at a known and reputable dealer, we can essentially rule out that it's a fake one. Have fun with it.

you don't know how happy I am to hear that, I preferred to ask because this is my first stiga blade and also the first time I order from dandoy sports. "These printing errors" between quotes do not change the performance of the blade?

 

[kudo]

This one looks similar to what I have. In both my Rosewood VII and V, the 'M' is below the 'V', like here.

Mine were from a verified Stiga retailer, so I'm pretty confident they're not fake, but your post has shaken my confidence a bit ngl,..

yours has no printing errors

 

[\_Kairos_/]

you don't know how happy I am to hear that, I preferred to ask because this is my first stiga blade and also the first time I order from dandoy sports. "These printing errors" between quotes do not change the performance of the blade?

I wouldn't know why. Mostly only the design of the handle gets an update (with blades that are on the market for a long time), while the remaining specs remain the same; in some instances, yes, the head size or the thickness changes minimally, but the overall playing characteristics or the performance generally remain the same. I wouldn't worry about that too much, if I were you.

 

[kudo]

I wouldn't know why. Mostly only the design of the handle gets an update (with blades that are on the market for a long time), while the remaining specs remain the same; in some instances, yes, the head size or the thickness changes minimally, but the overall playing characteristics or the performance generally remain the same. I wouldn't worry about that too much, if I were you.

I don't know if it's normal but on the left the wood comes out slightly from the handle unlike on the right where the handle covers the wood well. Nothing serious ?

 

[\_Kairos_/]

I don't know if it's normal ... Nothing serious ?

Let's say it's somewhat normal for Stiga...but you will find this "unevenness" with other brands too, occasionally.
While many of their old blades form the 50s, 60s and 70s are legendary, Stiga now has had an irritating history of inferior built quality and dubious quality control (at least compared to their old blades and to other "premium" brands). Of course you can still play with them (including yours) and many will give you lots of spin.
If this part of the handle makes you uncomfortable, you should be able to send it back to Dandoy and get a new one, either another Rosewood VII or an entirely different blade. Me personally, I would probably keep it.