Short review of Glayzer 09c (don't buy)

[Jan_]

I can tell something like - Jupiter 2/3 is a piece of shit, I don’t care how good it reacting to boosting, bc I don’t want to buy some aliexpress crap, then stink my home with a booster, to achieve some “higher standards” even if it worth 1/3rd of the price - change my mind 😁

But joke aside, you can have your opinion about anything mate, that’s what for this forum is about 😌

It's objective, jupiter is a good rubber. fast and spinny. it's 15 bucks. Glayzer feels much better, but is slow af, and almost non tacky, at 45 bucks...

 

[SleepyMaster]

It's objective, jupiter is a good rubber. fast and spinny. it's 15 bucks. Glayzer feels much better, but is slow af, and almost non tacky, at 45 bucks...

it can be better for you - for me personally it can be the opposite, and i dont care how much it cost really, its just a peace of a rubber

 

[Cordell]

There's like a billion different kinds of rubbers out there, some might like the G09C, some don't and prefer something else. Looking at other comments in this thread I have the feeling it does induce mixed feelings, but it is one of many - the only thing that matters is to find the right setup before going bankrupt EJing... I am annoyed that the local TT equipment site doesn't offer volume discounts for Butterfly products, but the sole Glayzer 09C review on it does say that with "a single layer of Falco" it becomes pretty good for... I think they mean the backhand when they said "left side of the table". And it seems about right with what some here have said too that it does become quicker if needed.

Edit: I forgot to make a point. I mean it's counter-productive to spend so long just spitefully bashing on what is simply a floppy piece of rubber with a sponge glued underneath in spite of others claiming the contrary when there's others to try out and have fun with.

 

[_ak]

It's objective, jupiter is a good rubber. fast and spinny. it's 15 bucks. Glayzer feels much better, but is slow af, and almost non tacky, at 45 bucks...

Lol, sounds better than modern H3 Prov slow and almost not tacky at 45 bucks with a tendency to bubble.

 

[Jan_]

it can be better for you - for me personally it can be the opposite, and i dont care how much it cost really, its just a peace of a rubber

For me it's expensive, I can't justify it for it's performance.

 

[Jan_]

Lol, sounds better than modern H3 Prov slow and almost not tacky at 45 bucks with a tendency to bubble.

H3 is supposed to be boosted and isn't known for its feel. Speed is good but need power input to feel it. Plus, it has no catapult.

 

[_ak]

For me it's expensive, I can't justify it for it's performance.

My condolences about your terrible financial loss 🤣

 

[Jan_]

My condolences about your terrible financial loss 🤣

When the average income is 800€ then 45 is quite a lot. Welcome to eastern Europe.

 

[_ak]

I came from even poorer Eastern European country so I know it well, 2 hours private lesson was like 10 euro, it was a bargain if you had good income, now it's much more difficult to afford the same service despite much higher income

Anyway it went a bit too personal so I shut up.

Cheers

 

[Jan_]

I came from even poorer Eastern European country so I know it well, 2 hours private lesson was like 10 euro, it was a bargain if you had good income, now it's much more difficult to afford the same service despite much higher income

Anyway it went a bit too personal so I shut up.

Cheers

It's stupid how expensive everything has gotten.

 

[Kopp]

I can understand why some people complain about the G09C when they find it doesn't suit them.

The G09C is clearly marketed as a hard sponge and slightly tacky rubber. It won't suit all players, especially those with poor technique.

The G09C requires good technique to produce quality shots. This rubber can help you correct your core muscle engagement. How?

IMHO, because it's a slower rubber, your shot will have less power as well as the opponent returns. This slower return gives you more reaction time. This extra time allowing your core muscles to engage more effectively.

Additionally, the dwell time of the rubber is longer. This allows beginners with less speed to feel the ball better and brush it properly.

Combining these factors, a beginner can learn or correct their strokes.

If you can engage your body to hit the ball, with the forearm and wrist assisting the brushing, I guarantee you can produce high-quality shots. These shots will be more than sufficient to win points in an amateur match.

 

[vossi39]

I don‘t think it is purely the hardness of the sponge, which makes G09c not being a rubber for many players.
I‘m used to hard sponges (played Tronix ZGR, V20DE and now DHS H3), but G09c is a different animal. I never managed to get any shot consistency with this rubber. Not for pushes, not for loops, not for blocks. I never had a rubber, that left me clueless on what to change to make it work on (so) many different occasions.

And I had never had a rubber, that behave so differently on different blades.

For me G09c never worked and was one of the biggest disappointments of last years testing period.

 

[_ak]

To me it was really an easy to play rubber, that manages to produce more spin than you expect.
Spin sensitive - yes (very soft topsheet), on slower side - yes, tons of dwell - yes, high throw - yes, on all wood blade possibly too high, gets better on carbon blades.

Just don't take it if you like to run away from the table.

 

[RomanAngerer]

As someone who got excited about Glayzer 09C last year, I bought two sheets (red+black) and played with them for about 3 months... Until I ripped them away from the blade and gifted them to my friends.

As someone mentioned in this topic, G09C left me clueless about what I should improve to make it work. Sometimes it shoots off far, sometimes it doesn't bounce, sometimes it spins, sometimes it doesn't.
I only regret playing with G09C on TB ALC and DHS PG6X, both very hard blades. After my friend attached the gifted sheet to his wooden Yasaka blade, the rubber became much more comfortable and I even started liking it, however the rubber lost its last bits of aggressiveness.
Maybe a booster could help, but I am surely not going to spend money on G09C ever again.

To sum it up:
- Spin - nice spin. Maybe a bit less than T05, surely less than Jupiter 2/3/BigDipper, and way less than H3 prov/nat.
- Block - excellent. In fact, blocking is something I miss about G09C, especially when I play with Chinese rubbers.
- Short game - average. For some reason, it shoots off randomly and doesn't forgive inaccuracies.
- Power - bad. Despite its relatively hard sponge, you can feel a clear threshold of power you can apply with G09C.
- Grip - average. Somehow, despite some tack, G09C has a worse grip than D09C and T05C. And not even close to Chinese rubbers in terms of grip.

G09C is surely not worth its money. Maybe if you want to have BTY equipment, it does its job. But even then, the price is too high, at which any ESN competitor thrashes G09C.
I often play with 2 great players (one is a former Olympian) who played with G09C on TB ALC and Maze, they were left with the same disappointment from the rubber. Like something is just off.

 

[Jan_]

I can understand why some people complain about the G09C when they find it doesn't suit them.

The G09C is clearly marketed as a hard sponge and slightly tacky rubber. It won't suit all players, especially those with poor technique.

The G09C requires good technique to produce quality shots. This rubber can help you correct your core muscle engagement. How?

IMHO, because it's a slower rubber, your shot will have less power as well as the opponent returns. This slower return gives you more reaction time. This extra time allowing your core muscles to engage more effectively.

Additionally, the dwell time of the rubber is longer. This allows beginners with less speed to feel the ball better and brush it properly.

Combining these factors, a beginner can learn or correct their strokes.

If you can engage your body to hit the ball, with the forearm and wrist assisting the brushing, I guarantee you can produce high-quality shots. These shots will be more than sufficient to win points in an amateur match.

I used to play with hurricane 3, it's not the lack of speed or tackiness. It's the lack of performance. It can only go that far, a hurricane practically doesn't have a ceiling.

 

[_ak]

used to

😉

 

[Haraold]

was also wondering about switching from the normal Glayzer on BH to G09C.
But Thought fuck it ,and I PlayT Iibhar Hybrid MX on BH and BluestarA! on FH.
The First Half Season is set herefore,training,training,Training.

 

[driversbeat]

Is there anyone who likes Glazyer09c and has found a cheaper alternative that plays similarly? Feels so much better for me on viscaria compared to Dignics80 which I hated immediately.

 

[JJ Ng]

Is there anyone who likes Glazyer09c and has found a cheaper alternative that plays similarly? Feels so much better for me on viscaria compared to Dignics80 which I hated immediately.

I don't think there is an alternative to Glazyer 09c. As you can tell, some people love it. Some people hate it. I have not seen a rubber dividing people up so much (well Sanwei Target National aside). If you love it, then just buy the rubber and take a good care of it, and forget about a cheaper alternative.

 

[Kopp]

Is there anyone who likes Glazyer09c and has found a cheaper alternative that plays similarly? Feels so much better for me on viscaria compared to Dignics80 which I hated immediately.

Rakza Z is my answer. It's cheaper but not as much.

I can easily switch these rubbers between my FH and BH without any issues.

Just be aware that Rakza Z might become bouncier over time. You may need to adjust your strokes slightly, while G09C tends to maintain its characteristics for longer time.