Short review of Glayzer 09c (don't buy)

[Jan_]

Never talked about the tack here, I was talking about the sponge. You said you just need to boost H3. Unfortunately, a boosted H3 only lasts for a month, and you need to re-boost it. The feeling of the rubber after re-boosting it is just not the same anymore. I'm not a professional, but I sure don't like the feel of the re-boosted H3.

Getting a commercial one is fine and all but QC is horrible; Good if I get the good one but what if I get the horrible one? I'd be wasting my money. I'm not playing lottery with my equipment. Losing in a tournament is a big no for me, I have face to keep here, lol. The hassle of boosting is also not worth it.

With G09C though, I don't need to worry about QC and durability. BTY's QC is top notch, and the durability has always been incredible. While ESN and boosted H3 lost their juice in a rather sharp downturn, g09c and bty's products would lose it gradually which means I don't need to do any extreme adjustments for my stroke. What's more, it's forgiving and for someone who loves winning tournaments, that quality is very desirable.

Whatever you say ma long, I'm sure loosing on a tournament will end your career and destroy your life. Use what you wanna use, it's all the same in the end, they just play different, and the hurricane is simply better.

You don't even have to boost it to get good performance out of it, just hit harder if you want more speed.

I know it's rocket science, but I'm sure you understand this, more brush = more spin and more power = more speed.

 

[banbekas]

Whatever you say ma long, I'm sure loosing on a tournament will end your career and destroy your life. Use what you wanna use, it's all the same in the end, they just play different, and the hurricane is simply better.

You don't even have to boost it to get good performance out of it, just hit harder if you want more speed.

I know it's rocket science, but I'm sure you understand this, more brush = more spin and more power = more speed.

I hit hard enough to blast the ball even with only unboosted B2/ H3 on an all wood, all round, 5 ply blade. It doesn't change the fact that Boosted H3 provincial is just better than unboosted one. What's the point on getting an H3 BS unboosted?

Boosted H3 BS is better than almost any rubbers I can think of and I'm not denying that. Cost performance though, it's not. For me g09c, for cost and performance as an amateur, makes much more sense. Forgiving, easier to use, respectable spin and speed.

 

[tzifos]

What's the point on getting an H3 BS unboosted?

Just to exercise your body, especially legs, wrist, elbow and shoulder !!

 

[Kopp]

.. For me g09c, for cost and performance as an amateur, makes much more sense. Forgiving, easier to use, respectable spin and speed.

Agree. Learning, and practising the techniques in the games are easier. May not gives highest quality shot but in an amatuer match you may still win many points with this rubber.

 

[RomanAngerer]

Agree. Learning, and practising the techniques in the games are easier. May not gives highest quality shot but in an amatuer match you may still win many points with this rubber.

I think G09C only suits the "put ball on a table" style. Pretty good at that but for $50 it's incredible how herbivorous and tame the rubber is.
I guess, the only way to win with G09C is by putting a ball on a table and hoping the opponent misses at some point.

And the rubber isn't that durable tbh. For me, after several months of trainings, the top sheet started to wear off and lose some grip. This hasn't happened to me with T05 or H3/Jupiter.

 

[Jan_]

I hit hard enough to blast the ball even with only unboosted B2/ H3 on an all wood, all round, 5 ply blade. It doesn't change the fact that Boosted H3 provincial is just better than unboosted one. What's the point on getting an H3 BS unboosted?

Boosted H3 BS is better than almost any rubbers I can think of and I'm not denying that. Cost performance though, it's not. For me g09c, for cost and performance as an amateur, makes much more sense. Forgiving, easier to use, respectable spin and speed.

Most players don't boost h3. It's a rubber that has different properties unboosted and some players like it.

 

[Kopp]

I think G09C only suits the "put ball on a table" style.

Agree. But if the incoming ball is fast enough, you may borrow the power to return it with a quality shot.

And the rubber isn't that durable tbh. For me, after several months of trainings, the top sheet started to wear off and lose some grip.

Agree more. I noticed my top sheet started losing the tackiness as well in less than 2 months.

 

[_ak]

As H3 users like to say just hit harder 😁. Tackiness isn't a big factor even with a new sheet.

 

[banbekas]

I think G09C only suits the "put ball on a table" style. Pretty good at that but for $50 it's incredible how herbivorous and tame the rubber is.
I guess, the only way to win with G09C is by putting a ball on a table and hoping the opponent misses at some point.

And the rubber isn't that durable tbh. For me, after several months of trainings, the top sheet started to wear off and lose some grip. This hasn't happened to me with T05 or H3/Jupiter.

I don't know who you play with but for sure he's not an amateur if you can't put the ball past him with a g09c. I have never played a game where I hope for my opponents to miss, I always look a way to end a point and blasting the ball with g09c is good enough. If you can't put the ball past your opponent with g09c, how are you getting a point with an unboosted h3 or b2?

Maybe you guys play like the pros where you try to bomb it 3 meters from the back? That could be possible but even then, I have never had problem with it. Maybe you should try to slap the ball harder, lol. Wait, you are using J3 which is even slower than g09c. Do you boost it?

Agree. Learning, and practising the techniques in the games are easier. May not gives highest quality shot but in an amatuer match you may still win many points with this rubber.

With our horrible technique it's impossible to reach the highest ball quality. Placement and ease of use are much better than "highest" quality of spin, speed, ball.

As H3 users like to say just hit harder 😁. Tackiness isn't a big factor even with a new sheet.

Yes, slap the ball hard. Heck, I'd say we should win the Powerslap competition considering just how often we slap the ball.

 

[Kopp]

With our horrible technique it's impossible to reach the highest ball quality. Placement and ease of use are much better than "highest" quality of spin, speed, ball.

I couldn't agree more!

 

[RomanAngerer]

I don't know who you play with but for sure he's not an amateur if you can't put the ball past him with a g09c. I have never played a game where I hope for my opponents to miss, I always look a way to end a point and blasting the ball with g09c is good enough. If you can't put the ball past your opponent with g09c, how are you getting a point with an unboosted h3 or b2?

Maybe you guys play like the pros where you try to bomb it 3 meters from the back? That could be possible but even then, I have never had problem with it. Maybe you should try to slap the ball harder, lol. Wait, you are using J3 which is even slower than g09c. Do you boost it?

We are surely not pros, and it's hard to measure given we're in different countries, but it's around 3rd-4th national league level. I don't think I am a good player, but it's noticeable to me how easily opponents return attacks from G09C. And it's not necessarily about the speed, the overall toxicity of trajectory and spin is just not problematic for the opponents.

Of course, I regularly boost J3/H3N with at least 2 layers, I would not recommend anyone playing these rubbers without a booster. And if I switch to B2 Gold, I would also boost it, no doubt.

Maybe G09C is great near the table, but as a 6.2 player, I always tend to step away from the table, where G09C loses its power.

 

[_ak]

Maybe G09C is great near the table

It is. Near to and over the table. It's not for players who like to run 5m away.

I am quite tall as well, but stay closer to the table and dislike rubbers with long trajectory.

 

[lt kettch]

Is there anyone who likes Glazyer09c and has found a cheaper alternative that plays similarly? Feels so much better for me on viscaria compared to Dignics80 which I hated immediately.

Maybe 729 Battle 3?

Tacky, soft topsheet, hard sponge (38° -40° DHS scale iirc)

 

[_ak]

B3 perhaps unboosted but I'd say it's still faster. I like it to kill short and shirt-wide serves to FH.