Table tennis culture in non-dominant Asian countries? (NOT China, Japan, Korea, Taiwan)

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How popular is table tennis in Asia outside of the dominating countries?

Is there a thriving club scene and is table tennis a popular leisure activity? Do these countries have organized leagues? How many active players etc? Dedicated training facilities? What is the general level of competitive TT in those countries?

The countries I would like to know more about are:

Malyasia
Thailand
Cambodia
Vietnam
India
Singapore
Myanmar
The Philippines
Indonesia
 
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On semi-pro/pro side:

Singapore is sad
other than Singapore sport school and a few clubs/centers keeping proper youth development alive, all those monies to import Chinese players (and who have mostly all left, mere a few), there isnt really much growth (if we were to match it with inflation %). I am told education focus is too heavy, so sports kids is a huge minority and then to choose table tennis and to excel in it... well, the maths doesn't allow.

Malaysia is all individual based, no real funding.
Lots of centers to train. I am hosting a U15 player, who is top 3 in his center and due to that - he has reached a peak in terms of levels he can train with. In Taiwan, almost everyone is higher than him, so his 1 month training her will push him higher.

Thailand the womens tt is a threat for the rest of the world.
Other than the 3 famous womens player we know of, I saw a U19 yesterday and have very solid foundation.
I don't have the knowledge of domestic structure but womens on the world stage is showing results. This is very worrying for me, but huge respect for the Thai coaches in getting it right.

Philippines, one top junior girl is now living in 888, USA, she should be able to break records.
Yogibear can comment about the domestic structure.
 
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Table tennis is big in Indonesia. How big? Lots of tournaments every week. The money is also okay. A regional game gold medal winner can get you up to $3-5k. It might be small to you guys but you need to remember the minimum wage here is like $300 a month. It's worth 10-12 month of work.
Unfortunately, our players are quite weak compared to Singapore's import players. Lack of international experience is the reason, or at least that is what I think. No thanks to some internal problem in the federation.
 
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Table tennis is big in Indonesia. How big? Lots of tournaments every week. The money is also okay. A regional game gold medal winner can get you up to $3-5k. It might be small to you guys but you need to remember the minimum wage here is like $300 a month. It's worth 10-12 month of work.
Unfortunately, our players are quite weak compared to Singapore's import players. Lack of international experience is the reason, or at least that is what I think. No thanks to some internal problem in the federation.
Are there also lots of "lower level" tournaments or leagues where teams compete against each other regionally?
 
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Are there also lots of "lower level" tournaments or leagues where teams compete against each other regionally?
Most of the tournaments here are small-scale competitions with prizes ranging from around 70 to 130 US dollars. The tournaments are usually in the form of individual matches or teams sending individual representatives to compete. Meanwhile, matches involving full teams, such as men's teams, are typically held in larger leagues.

You can make a decent living if you win these small-scale tournaments every week. It's very hard though. You will be up against players that do treatments to their rubber, especially long-pimple ones. It's like boosting for us, but they take it farther. Very annoying to deal with if you are not used to.
 
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Table tennis is big in Indonesia. How big? Lots of tournaments every week. The money is also okay. A regional game gold medal winner can get you up to $3-5k. It might be small to you guys but you need to remember the minimum wage here is like $300 a month. It's worth 10-12 month of work.
Unfortunately, our players are quite weak compared to Singapore's import players. Lack of international experience is the reason, or at least that is what I think. No thanks to some internal problem in the federation.
yeah, one my Taiwan's u19 player was invited to an Indonesia tournament and the easier $3k usd he made in his life.

do you guys have many of these?
I was told, that was like a special event (anniversary or something like that) and prize money was few times more than the norm
 
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I wonder wat tabletennis is like in non table tennis countries in eu.. so I mean, not Germany or France..
Belgium, Estland, Poland, Monte Negro, Monaco, Andora, North Ireland, Scotland, Luxembourg
Belgium, Poland is very much a table tennis country with the Polish league part of the big 3 of Europe.
Estonia, the home of TT11, has the biggest TT eshop on the western side of the world maybe?

there are some Luxembourg players in the leagues my players have come across,.
The countries named in OP is probably bigger in TT compared to the others you named.
 
Singaporean here. Have been playing since 7. Now 14 going 15. It’s true that the table tennis culture in Singapore is plain sad, and mostly better players are in their mid to late 30s and older. Penhold, especially 1 sided Chen seems very common here especially among seniors. I have a group of friends in my school with the interest of table tennis too, but when we asked the teachers if we can sign up for NSG, national school games, we were told that we weren’t good enough. I consider myself an okay player, and my forehand can be quite devastating, as a forehand dominant jpen player.
Apparently, we need to have a coach who recommends us to go for NSG, and since none of us have coach, we are basically done.

One of my friends I regularly play with was a player for his primary schools table tennis school team, but our current secondary school does not have a table tennis team anymore.

In Singapore for racket sports, there is much more support for badminton compared to other racket sports.

I’m also sad with The techniques of the players in Singapore now of days. They seem to have quite ok form, but are not very adaptive, especially to players like me who don’t have training, (just floor table tennis against the wall). I have played against 3 players so far who are in their schools table tennis team, all of them 2 years older than me. once you figure them out they are to easy to beat. Serves very predictable, and even spinny serves are not well hidden and usually not low enough. Placement not good, and give me too many opportunity to get my forehand in the game. In fact, I had more trouble against the old uncles with surprisingly good ball control, long pimps or antispin. Plus, once I can get an edge by being more attack, as jpen, they will almost 100% lose the point. not the best lobs, and blocks, can’t handle speed.

This may not be 100% accurate, but all the players I have played came from quite well known schools. I was wondering how I would have faired if I can be in NSG.

They also seem to be scared of open rallies which involves forehand from mid distance, and prefer backhand to backhand, and get forehands off the bounce, which do not always mean best return quality, even with the speed, which is easy to bleed off.

Last of all, related to placement comes footwork. Most I’ve seen and played stand pretty still in my opinion-too firm and not swift on the ball of the feet. Maybe its just for me as jpen wanting to get best forehands, but they can’t handle wide shots which they fall victim to by poor placement.

as a half Malaysian, I have seen my friends back in east Malaysia fair much better when they play, better form technique and footwork, and overall better gameplay. They get the point to be able to handle unorthodox players, (anti, long pimps, short pimps and especially choppers). When it comes to forehand, they extend their arms with what I deem a proper swing, arms stretched, but still compact.
 
How popular is table tennis in Asia outside of the dominating countries?

Is there a thriving club scene and is table tennis a popular leisure activity? Do these countries have organized leagues? How many active players etc? Dedicated training facilities? What is the general level of competitive TT in those countries?

The countries I would like to know more about are:

Malyasia
Thailand
Cambodia
Vietnam
Singapore
The Philippines
Indonesia
Where is India and Myanmar in the list.
 
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yeah, one my Taiwan's u19 player was invited to an Indonesia tournament and the easier $3k usd he made in his life.

do you guys have many of these?
I was told, that was like a special event (anniversary or something like that) and prize money was few times more than the norm
Yep, we have many of these events every year. Almost every year institutions here celebrate birthday or anniversary or some other occasion. Sometimes they would invite foreign players, but mostly they only accept Indo players. The thing is, the closer it is to election campaign, the more frequently these tournaments are held.

In case you are not familiar with the funny rubbers I mentioned, you can check them in one of Adam's videos. Some of these long-pimple players fry their rubbers in hot oil, apply baby powder, and all sort of inconceivable treatments. Personally, I think ITTF should just let it happen. We have been using booster to gain advantage over others, why not let these defenders or long-pimple players do the same thing to level the playing field.
 
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Yep, we have many of these events every year. Almost every year institutions here celebrate birthday or anniversary or some other occasion. Sometimes they would invite foreign players, but mostly they only accept Indo players. The thing is, the closer it is to election campaign, the more frequently these tournaments are held.

In case you are not familiar with the funny rubbers I mentioned, you can check them in one of Adam's videos. Some of these long-pimple players fry their rubbers in hot oil, apply baby powder, and all sort of inconceivable treatments. Personally, I think ITTF should just let it happen. We have been using booster to gain advantage over others, why not let these defenders or long-pimple players do the same thing to level the playing field.
i played against funny rubbers before.
I love it.
it is a great challenge trying to loop 3 to 5 times in a row.
the challenge is actually great fun, but i'm sure that isn't everyone's cup of tea.
 
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