The V-Grip

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Hello! I've recently heard about the experimental V-grip, and I wanted to see what're your experiences and notes while using the grip. Thank you!
To those who don't know, the V-grip is where you put the thumb and index finger on the forehand side, and the last three in the backhand side.

This is what it looks like:
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That’s gonna be a very awkward FH. No thank you.

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L-zr
Fair enough, but what I prefer to do for FH is flipping the bat from the BH, much like how you do with Jpen, but in reverse??

This leads to using the BH side for FH.

This FH is used as an emergency for instances where you cannot perform a quality backhand.

This is just my experience, I hope you try it out, cuz it looks like it may work.
 
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There is a reason why this is a bad grip - almost none of the fingers are on the rubber and it doesnt allow for minute finger control of the blade angle as well as spin generation. Hence it is quite a bit inferior to both penhold and shakehand.
 
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There is a reason why this is a bad grip - almost none of the fingers are on the rubber and it doesnt allow for minute finger control of the blade angle as well as spin generation. Hence it is quite a bit inferior to both penhold and shakehand.
You make a good point. But who knows, it's an experimental grip.

Surprisingly, its backhand is strong. It may be the angle of your arm for the grip, but the backhand of this grip is quite powerful, maybe stronger than Jpen and Cpen.

Idk tho, I'm still quite new to the V-Grip and TT as a whole.
 
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Fair enough, but what I prefer to do for FH is flipping the bat from the BH, much like how you do with Jpen, but in reverse??

This leads to using the BH side for FH.

This FH is used as an emergency for instances where you cannot perform a quality backhand.

This is just my experience, I hope you try it out, cuz it looks like it may work.
FH is the STREGTH of the penhold, why on earth would you want to screw this up?
The penhold is already perfect for active BH blocks...

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You make a good point. But who knows, it's an experimental grip.

Surprisingly, its backhand is strong. It may be the angle of your arm for the grip, but the backhand of this grip is quite powerful, maybe stronger than Jpen and Cpen.

Idk tho, I'm still quite new to the V-Grip and TT as a whole.
If you want to improve the grip, the middle finger should rest on the rubber, and the thumb should also rest on the rubber separate from the index finger.

Then it might work as a solid grip, but there are some glaring weaknesses because the FH is almost forced to be hooked. You almost cannot do a fade loop and this can really hurt the FH loopkill which is a bread and butter shot for TT. Also hooking the FH loop is quite bad for consistency due to lack of topspin.

Highly doubt that the BH is more powerful than shakehand BH, and with the disadvantages in the FH, it is probably quite suboptimal to use it.
 
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Highly doubt that the BH is more powerful than shakehand BH, and with the disadvantages in the FH, it is probably quite suboptimal to use it.
It absolutely is not better than the Shakehand BH as of now, but maybe it'll change in the future.
Then it might work as a solid grip, but there are some glaring weaknesses because the FH is almost forced to be hooked. You almost cannot do a fade loop and this can really hurt the FH loopkill which is a bread and butter shot for TT. Also hooking the FH loop is quite bad for consistency due to lack of topspin.
That's why I flip the BH, stated here.
Fair enough, but what I prefer to do for FH is flipping the bat from the BH, much like how you do with Jpen, but in reverse??

This leads to using the BH side for FH.
 
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It absolutely is not better than the Shakehand BH as of now, but maybe it'll change in the future.

That's why I flip the BH, stated here.
I actually trained a bit of using BH rubber for a FH stroke with shakehand as I was attempting to invent a FH chiquita with the BH rubber. It works but it's a damn difficult stroke to time in 3d space against many different balls and also the arm movement is contorted and awkward af, similar to when I tried TPB BH attack.
 
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Uh I was talking about the V-Grip, not Penhold. I was using an analogy of TPB for how I use V-Grip's forehand.
Me too,
The V-grip does not have any advantage at all, it screws up both FH AND BH...
The ordinary penhold is a superb grip for FH.

If You want to play BH, use shakehand...

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While playing table tennis you need to adjust your grip and position of you racket constantly. Easiest way to do so is with the gap between thumb and index finger, since there is more room and more ways to pressure the sides respectively. This is true for penhold and shakehand.

The V-Grip just doesn't really fit for readjustments.
 
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While playing table tennis you need to adjust your grip and position of you racket constantly. Easiest way to do so is with the gap between thumb and index finger, since there is more room and more ways to pressure the sides respectively. This is true for penhold and shakehand.

The V-Grip just doesn't really fit for readjustments.
Interesting... I don't really have anything to say with or against it :/
 
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Me too,
The V-grip does not have any advantage at all, it screws up both FH AND BH...
The ordinary penhold is a superb grip for FH.

If You want to play BH, use shakehand...

Cheers
L-zr
But it is still experimental, so maybe there'll be a trick in the future where BH or FH using V-Grip will be deadly, or maybe something else altogether.
 
That's what I'm saying! Why not learn a grip? Even if it won't be your main, it could help your form and at worst, be a cool party trick.
Yes sometimes sport is about enjoyment. So do whatever you feel comfortable with and have some fun!
 
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I just found this out.
This is the handle for V-Grip.
 

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Fair enough, but what I prefer to do for FH is flipping the bat from the BH, much like how you do with Jpen, but in reverse??

This leads to using the BH side for FH.

This FH is used as an emergency for instances where you cannot perform a quality backhand.

This is just my experience, I hope you try it out, cuz it looks like it may work.
Couldn't you just use more of a "backhand grip" some shakehand users use a slight grip change where they turn the hand more on top of the grip for backhand.

Imo this grip would have a big disadvantage for forehand.

Not sure about the penhold version. I play RPB penhold myself but not sure about how to rate that.
 
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