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Tibhar Hybrid MK review
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I use the MK max. with a Garaydia ZLC (87 g) on my FH and it is the best choice so far, after trying every Dignics and Tenergy and also Hybrid K3 rubber. Good spin, good power thanks to the blade and, which is the most important, maximum control. Very linear behavior. I would not recommend this rubber with slow blades, if you want power. With a fast blade it is a very good choice.
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Used it for about 8 weeks (2x 2hr p/wk) and top sheets still looks very good. Reglued couple of times and sponge also looks good. So far, I'm happy with the durability.
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used it for 6 weeks and i'm playing more like 8 hours a week. its still good.
on BH K3 looks more used, but still feels good
on BH K3 looks more used, but still feels good
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bump on this. There's surprisingly little out there on this rubber. Due to my increase in playing frequency lately I started looking at rubbers that are a little more advanced. Went through some old favorites, as well as some of the newer stuff out there (never been a latest/greatest type of guy) but nothing was really clicking for my forehand.
Went through a full 5x/week practice with each of the following on the FH: Fastarc G1, Hammond Z2, Rasanter C48 (used the most), and even spent a day with Dignics 05 (no thanks) but nothing was really clicking. I absolutely loathe testing equipment. Just want to set it and forget it. I used Dynaryz ACC on my forehand for a couple years just playing casually once a week at most, but it's not what suits the version of me that's actually practicing a lot and trying to improve again. I took a gamble on trying MK - K3 and its hardness seemed intimidating to me, I'm no pro. Usually stick to the sub 50 hardness rubber on my forehand, as i'm about an 1800 level player or so with a shoulder that's not 100%. I just didn't think anything else sounded appealing. I slapped on Hybrid MK max tonight and had a nice two hour session with it. Cannot believe how good it was.
Very mildly tacky (def moreso than C48, which i would not use the word tacky with at all), but really just very very grippy. I had very good command of serve and return. Haven't felt that confident at serve/return/over the table play (my relative strength) since back when I was young and could make use of hurricane. I would describe the topsheet as soft and supple, compared to the Rasanter topsheets which I think of as firm and weird feeling. It has a very balanced amount of catapult - not the insane tenergy like catapult, and not completely linear. I was still able to play a higher pace pretty easily while also feeling like I had more control of the ball. I had way more confidence than I did with C48 when hitting with more power and impact. I felt more comfortable immediately Opening with more rotation and placement compared to C48, and when using higher power on opening I felt like I had way more command of the rotation on the ball with no loss of speed, whereas with C48 I just didn't ever get a good feel for the ball on opening. But the kicker to me was that it felt 10/10 at countering, which is a big part of my forehand game and which was what drew me to C48. I have to give it a few more sessions, i know how opinion/perception can completely change. But reading this thread previously had me not really sure about trying this rubber but I'm glad I decided to. I'm like a D-tier reviewer, but just thought I'd share my initial experience since it's the first time I've immediately felt like i 'clicked' with a rubber on the forehand.
Went through a full 5x/week practice with each of the following on the FH: Fastarc G1, Hammond Z2, Rasanter C48 (used the most), and even spent a day with Dignics 05 (no thanks) but nothing was really clicking. I absolutely loathe testing equipment. Just want to set it and forget it. I used Dynaryz ACC on my forehand for a couple years just playing casually once a week at most, but it's not what suits the version of me that's actually practicing a lot and trying to improve again. I took a gamble on trying MK - K3 and its hardness seemed intimidating to me, I'm no pro. Usually stick to the sub 50 hardness rubber on my forehand, as i'm about an 1800 level player or so with a shoulder that's not 100%. I just didn't think anything else sounded appealing. I slapped on Hybrid MK max tonight and had a nice two hour session with it. Cannot believe how good it was.
Very mildly tacky (def moreso than C48, which i would not use the word tacky with at all), but really just very very grippy. I had very good command of serve and return. Haven't felt that confident at serve/return/over the table play (my relative strength) since back when I was young and could make use of hurricane. I would describe the topsheet as soft and supple, compared to the Rasanter topsheets which I think of as firm and weird feeling. It has a very balanced amount of catapult - not the insane tenergy like catapult, and not completely linear. I was still able to play a higher pace pretty easily while also feeling like I had more control of the ball. I had way more confidence than I did with C48 when hitting with more power and impact. I felt more comfortable immediately Opening with more rotation and placement compared to C48, and when using higher power on opening I felt like I had way more command of the rotation on the ball with no loss of speed, whereas with C48 I just didn't ever get a good feel for the ball on opening. But the kicker to me was that it felt 10/10 at countering, which is a big part of my forehand game and which was what drew me to C48. I have to give it a few more sessions, i know how opinion/perception can completely change. But reading this thread previously had me not really sure about trying this rubber but I'm glad I decided to. I'm like a D-tier reviewer, but just thought I'd share my initial experience since it's the first time I've immediately felt like i 'clicked' with a rubber on the forehand.
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I used Tibhar Hybrid MK on fh and bh on a Tibhar Stratus Wood blade. The rubber was hard and didn't really excel at anything. It felt like an old Stiga Mendo rubber, maybe for a developing player to learn strokes. I am not a fan. The rubber sheets felt dead.
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Blame the blade, there is really no need to use such blades with slower rubbers unless you like to chop and flat hit.
Seems like you’re not made for hybrids then. MK is one of the softest (you said it’s hard) and easiest to access hybrids out there. No Hybrid rubber is fast in comparison to normal rubbers. You need to play active in every shot to make use of them.
In my opinion we’re currently seeing a big difference in what pros use and what amateurs are able to use. 99% of amateurs will be better of with a normal rubber instead of hybrids. But this is the same story as for blades: for 95% a Viscaria is too fast and stiff, but 95% want to play with it.
In my opinion we’re currently seeing a big difference in what pros use and what amateurs are able to use. 99% of amateurs will be better of with a normal rubber instead of hybrids. But this is the same story as for blades: for 95% a Viscaria is too fast and stiff, but 95% want to play with it.
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I bought Hybrid MK (not hybrid at all but ok) and have it for my BH on a Donic No.1 Senso. I have never played with such a consistent and well performing rubber. It feels like the first time I tried Rakza 7 a long time ago.
I'd say the main characteristics of the MK are:
If Rakza 7 is the perfect beginner rubber to learn basuc techniques (for me) then Hybrid Mk is the best Intermediate rubber out there to give players confidence in match play.
I'd say the main characteristics of the MK are:
- Linearity: the rubber is very linear. You never get the bouncy balls you sometimes get on short touches as with Evolution/Rasanter rubbers.
- Block: So easy. I changed from EL-P to this rubber and before it was so hard to block. MK soaks up the power of incoming shots and is not sensitive to spin.
- Counter: Just swing and it goes in. It eats any kind of incoming spin and lets you guide the ball wherever.
If Rakza 7 is the perfect beginner rubber to learn basuc techniques (for me) then Hybrid Mk is the best Intermediate rubber out there to give players confidence in match play.
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I am knee deep in researching my next set of rubbers and I stumbled across your reply in this thread.
I am currently using a Rasanter C48, mainly used it on my FH, but due to the same problems with opening up you described I started switching it to my BH, with a Rasanter R48 on the other side of the blade.
I was debating going with the Fastarc G1 for my FH, but the more I read and look into the Tibhar Hybrid MK it seems like the better choice. Seeing you have used all three rubbers, with a similar experience to mine with the C48, I am very tempted to go full Hybrid MK, max on FH and 2.0 on BH, since my backhand is not too wristy. Have you by any chance tried the Hybrid MK on the BH too?
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Shore A durometer registers 30.5 degrees (42-43d) so your subjective assessment was more accurate than the manufacturer rating. See below:
Pretty bizarre people would consider a 42d rubber "too hard."
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Although it might be a 42d rubber, the feeling is more "compact" compared to many other typical soft rubbers, like R42, Bluefire M3, etc. I would not state that Hybrid MK feels hard, but compact is a better description IMO.
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Although it depends how you measure the hardness. To me the sponge by itself feels harder than softer sponges like EL-P when pressing with a finger nail on the side of the rubber. However, when pressing all the rubber from the topsheet then the whole rubber feels softer. I think the topsheet is what is extremely soft.
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This is probably the case. In the other DHS hardness thread, we're speculating that the durometer will read the softest part first. So if the measuring pin only reaches the topsheet, that is what will be measured. The pointed measuring pin of that Shore A durometer they're using is intended to measure just the topsheet material.
I just bought a Shore O durometer off aliexpress that has a rounder measuring pin that should be able to measure both the topsheet and sponge so I'll confirm if this is the case and report back when they ship it to me.
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