Us EJ’s upholds the entire TT equipment market 🙃

[Lazer]

It’s sad but if we stopped EJ’ing the market go bust. I can see that most of us are EJ’s so keep it up. (OK to take a break every once in a while though) 😇😉🤣

Cheers
L-zr

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

I wonder how big is the EJ market compared to the players market.

Just in a small little Taiwan, I can say
The semi pro market - where they need to self fund equipment probably use around 20 sheets of rubbers a year and min 1 to 2 blades.

and the ones that have funding to buy rubbers (not sponsorship, so is probable sales for the tt companies), could be 40 sheets / 3 to 4 blades a year.

elementary school kids - using 4 sheets of rubbers a year, easily 4000+ of them.
middle school kids, using 8 sheets of rubbers a year, easily 1000+ of them
high school kids, using 10 sheets of rubbers a year, easily 500+ of them

semi pro, maybe 400 of them
funded semi pro, maybe 100 of them

I am sure collectively, this rubber business from serious young players is bigger than Taiwan's EJ market.
and what makes it more easier, the supply chain is more consistence, and easier stock keeping model.

So, thank you to them keeping the TT equipment market alive

 

[Lazer]

I wonder how big is the EJ market compared to the players market.

Just in a small little Taiwan, I can say
The semi pro market - where they need to self fund equipment probably use around 20 sheets of rubbers a year and min 1 to 2 blades.

and the ones that have funding to buy rubbers (not sponsorship, so is probable sales for the tt companies), could be 40 sheets / 3 to 4 blades a year.

elementary school kids - using 4 sheets of rubbers a year, easily 4000+ of them.
middle school kids, using 8 sheets of rubbers a year, easily 1000+ of them
high school kids, using 10 sheets of rubbers a year, easily 500+ of them

semi pro, maybe 400 of them
funded semi pro, maybe 100 of them

I am sure collectively, this rubber business from serious young players is bigger than Taiwan's EJ market.
and what makes it more easier, the supply chain is more consistence, and easier stock keeping model.

So, thank you to them keeping the TT equipment market alive

Sorry but I don’t believe you, elementary school kids 4 sheets a year, no not many kids use that much rubber.

Semi pro’s are normally equipment sponsored…

Tiny Taiwan must be special…

Cheers
L-zr

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Sorry but I don’t believe you, elementary school kids 4 sheets a year, no not many kids use that much rubber.

Semi pro’s are normally equipment sponsored…

Tiny Taiwan must be special…

Cheers
L-zr

our elementary school kids train min 20 hours a week.
4 sheets is 1 pair every 6 months, and I'm really using the lowest number for my calculation.

The 11 year old training with us, change 1 pair every 2 months, so he is already more than my low number.

Japan will be more than 4000 players, and maybe 12000 x 8 sheets.
China, maybe 80000 kids, maybe 12 sheets.

So, Taiwan is not special, i think Sweden (being a top TT country) is the special one where EJ is the biggest market

Of maybe Sweden doesn't have much juniors training for table tennis. So the overall TT age average is maybe higher, with more older players that are EJ. this is a possibility.
In Taiwan, due to its very strong school sport system, the average age is pretty low. However, there is also a vast amateur market, which my Swedish friend at Stiga asked me about it, and we came up with about 50 k to 100k amateurs playing at least few times weekly.

The semi pros 90% opt out from the sport, with maybe 10% remain on to be coaches.
Taiwan has 3000 registered coaches - I didn't add on to the "equipment buying" list.

 

[Lazer]

our elementary school kids train min 20 hours a week.
4 sheets is 1 pair every 6 months, and I'm really using the lowest number for my calculation.

The 11 year old training with us, change 1 pair every 2 months, so he is already more than my low number.

Japan will be more than 4000 players, and maybe 12000 x 8 sheets.
China, maybe 80000 kids, maybe 12 sheets.

So, Taiwan is not special, i think Sweden (being a top TT country) is the special one where EJ is the biggest market

Of maybe Sweden doesn't have much juniors training for table tennis. So the overall TT age average is maybe higher, with more older players that are EJ. this is a possibility.
In Taiwan, due to its very strong school sport system, the average age is pretty low. However, there is also a vast amateur market, which my Swedish friend at Stiga asked me about it, and we came up with about 50 k to 100k amateurs playing at least few times weekly.

The semi pros 90% opt out from the sport, with maybe 10% remain on to be coaches.
Taiwan has 3000 registered coaches - I didn't add on to the "equipment buying" list.

🤣 Don’t believe You, sorry. 🤣

Cheers
L-zr

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

🤣 Don’t believe You, sorry. 🤣

Cheers
L-zr

you never did

 

[PhoenixTT]

Is there a Taiwanese / Chinese term for EJ?

 

[passifid]

Honestly while Tony can be blunt he doesn't really lie. He also really does work in the industry in Taiwan.

I suppose it's just amazing how much the people of the CRC take table tennis compared to the UK it's a whole different world. Here it is most deffo EJ proping the market

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Honestly while Tony can be blunt he doesn't really lie. He also really does work in the industry in Taiwan.

I suppose it's just amazing how much the people of the CRC take table tennis compared to the UK it's a whole different world. Here it is most deffo EJ proping the market

Thank you Passifid.
I do struggle to understand how 4 sheets (2 pairs) of rubber a year is not impossible.
For any one playing 20 hours a week, at least 45 weeks a year, the mileage of the rubber certainly will mean the rubber count is too little.

I will actually ask some of the coaches who cater at the 6~8 year old space on how much rubbers they burn.
Crowd i'm with now, are all semi sponsored to fully sponsored (even get paid by TT brands), and burn rubbers very quickly.
H3 last 1~2 weeks
D09C last 2~3 weeks for example.

If I am DHS and Butterfly, I would prefer a consistent business from teams that burn rubber quickly, than oppose to EJ market which will jump between brands.

I do understand the youth section in many European countries are maybe more social at most, so maybe 1 pair would last a year, or longer, right?

 

[banbekas]

Back in my quest to be a national level player, I changed H3 every month. The feeling of a re-boosted H3 was awful for me and using an unboosted H3 was impossible because it would take toll on the body. Could only sustain it for a year though, all thanks to the kids and the elderlies who bought the used H3 to support me.

I can see children who aspire to be pros and train like crazy spend rubbers like crazy.