Wang Yang bad discipline, got fired from the USA Smash 2025

[igorponger]

Nothing unexpected about WY. He is well known to be a man of ill repute .

TT_Life

👀 Экс-игрок Факел-Газпрома Ван Ян дисквалифицирован с USA Smash за удар по столу. Психанув из-за снятия подачи китаец-словак ударил по столу Joola(фирма сильно рулит на теннисном рынке США и впервые получает место на Смэше) так, что был вызван главный судья, принявший решение о...

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[The0rigina1]

Clearly not a high enough toss

 

[Vrael]

and well educated, even Calderano didn't sue 3 languages in 1 second.
I play almost with no emotions, but I am not surprised he got mad. Will the umpire suffer any consequences ? One of the cleanest serves among top players and he got called many times

 

[pedro.dantas]

and well educated, even Calderano didn't sue 3 languages in 1 second.
I play almost with no emotions, but I am not surprised he got mad. Will the umpire suffer any consequences ? One of the cleanest serves among top players and he got called many times

It's not clean, not enough toss

 

[Vrael]

It's not clean, not enough toss

Oh really ? So the ball leaves his hand when he is still crounching and is on the same level as his nose, below eyes, then he straightens up adding at least 15cm to his height and the ball is above his eyes adding again at least 2 cm. Camera angle didn't change. Can also see the difference on the barriers in the background

And he gets called on that throughout the match. I am 99% sure that this serve would be legal with the review. By the way why are they not using review in this tournament ? And definitely it is not clearly an illegal serve which would be the only reason to call it at the beginning of the 5th set. Not to mention opponent had way more illegal serves and was not called for them

Edit: I agree that some of his serves were too low and he didn't get called on them, but here he got called on most likely totally legal one. The problem is that if the umpire is strict then she should warn his opponent about hiding the ball behind the head from time to time which at least for me is way more impactful than letting the ball drop more instead of throwing it.

 

[jk1980]

it's not about the toss height, but the toss has to start from above the table. So resting hand -> then toss move has to be both above table level and his toss move starts below table level.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

it's not about the toss height, but the toss has to start from above the table. So resting hand -> then toss move has to be both above table level and his toss move starts below table level.

the hand can get below table, the ball cannot.

I some times wish, we can have Q&A with the umpire/referee to know what is the problem and for them to explain it - so we can all learn.

if it is toss, I wish for the umpire to tell me, how much cm did he read.

 

[Vrael]

this is the lowest point I could capture: (LIVE! | T3 | Q Day 2 | United States Smash 2025 | Session 2 44:20 if someone wants to check)

Is it below table ? I wouldn't say so, maybe at the same line.
Could the umpire clearly see if the ball is below table ? Definitely not, because he was hiding it from her with the body which is not even against the rules, because he didn't hide it from the opponent.

Meanwhile opponent did many serves where ball passed behind his head and wasn't warned even once

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

this is the lowest point I could capture: (LIVE! | T3 | Q Day 2 | United States Smash 2025 | Session 2 44:20 if someone wants to check)
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Is it below table ? I wouldn't say so, maybe at the same line.
Could the umpire clearly see if the ball is below table ? Definitely not, because he was hiding it from her with the body which is not even against the rules, because he didn't hide it from the opponent.

Meanwhile opponent did many serves where ball passed behind his head and wasn't warned even once

do we know if this call is table or toss height?
I can't see clear problem for both issues (not caring about previous violations, just focusing on this).

I just wish for more consistency
at the moment, "no technology" available to aid for consistency and we are hoping the eye sight (+ angle) of umpire can provide "Grand Smash" quality calls

 

[Vrael]

do we know if this call is table or toss height?
I can't see clear problem for both issues (not caring about previous violations, just focusing on this).

I wanted to check that, but didn't see anything indicating which one it was. I only know that before he was warned about height. Could the point be taken from him if it was first "ball below table" violation and not repeated toss height ?

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

I wanted to check that, but didn't see anything indicating which one it was. I only know that before he was warned about height. Could the point be taken from him if it was first "ball below table" violation and not repeated toss height ?

frankly speaking, one doesn't need warning and can issue fault service.

so a warning of 1 and fault on the other is very possible

But what I don't like is, only the umpire knows 100% what the call was.
maybe the player himself doesn't know, or maybe he is the 2nd one.

I don't like discreteness, I want to know the answer, and i'm sure many viewers/fans want it too.

umpires should be part of interview post match imo

 

[Yurifi]

Nothing unexpected about WY. He is well known to be a man of ill repute .

TT_Life

👀 Экс-игрок Факел-Газпрома Ван Ян дисквалифицирован с USA Smash за удар по столу. Психанув из-за снятия подачи китаец-словак ударил по столу Joola(фирма сильно рулит на теннисном рынке США и впервые получает место на Смэше) так, что был вызван главный судья, принявший решение о...

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was umpire fired from the competition, too? if she would do a fair job, WY wouldn’t lose it. c’mon it’s bh serve, practically impossible to do an illegal serve on bh!!

 

[lightspin]

I thought calling fault was ridiculous. If you gave me 5 minutes, I could find 5 other people playing in the same tournament whose serves are illegal yet nothing is done about it.

Umpires are picky about some players and let other players get away with highway robbery. This is one of the many problems in our sport.

 

[land_killer]

yeah I agree for this serve, I didnt see a big problem that worth the fault

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

I thought calling fault was ridiculous. If you gave me 5 minutes, I could find 5 other people playing in the same tournament whose serves are illegal yet nothing is done about it.

Umpires are picky about some players and let other players get away with highway robbery. This is one of the many problems in our sport.

I have seen umpires talking among themself on who to watch out for and call.
this is fine, but if it has a different attention - to get more people to help you fault x player, then that is discrimination

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

there is another video of an umpire from this smash going nuts and doing weird calling
i saw it on someone's post... can't remember where

 

[lodro]

I wanted to check that, but didn't see anything indicating which one it was. I only know that before he was warned about height. Could the point be taken from him if it was first "ball below table" violation and not repeated toss height ?

Remember : the warnings are not compulsory but at the referee's choice to give

 

[Vrael]

Remember : the warnings are not compulsory but at the referee's choice to give

yeah, I wasn't suggesting she should warn him before taking point. I just asked because I didn't know the rule