Xuperman rubbers + viscaria

[Tony's Table Tennis]

I tested the xuperman black and red on my Viscaria for the first time today (was Yinhe Pro02 before that)
and pairing is very important, as it is a brilliant paring.
Today was the first time I enjoyed them.

I am very swamped with time, so video for xuperman rubbers is about 3rd or 4th in my "video production" queue and it could take a while before I can complete it.
I was hoping to get it out by end April, but at this rate, it is maybe 2 month to 3 months time....
So I'm happy to open up discussion on it and maybe I can share my info, so I don't forget about it and can read up again in this thread in the making of that video

A bit of a background - I used them both (40 deg black and 38 deg red) for around 6 to 7 times now (each around 2 hours)
at first non boost, to later on boosting both.
At first on Pro02 and today, first time on Viscaria
I play Cpen, and have been using H3 blue sponge on FH and Loki Rxton III Pink/Blue on BH, before that H8-80 on Backhand.

 

[Rinforzando]

Hi !

So compared to H3 bs, what's your thought about it ? Mainly asking for spin on serve, spin on push, spin on loop (spin in general xD)
Is it easy to brush it very lightly with a strong acceleration on opening loop? Or is it heasier with H3 bs ?

 

[Oliverpool]

Do you find the 40d xuperman harder or
Softer than a h3 equivalent? What about speed after boosting?

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Hi !

So compared to H3 bs, what's your thought about it ? Mainly asking for spin on serve, spin on push, spin on loop (spin in general xD)
Is it easy to brush it very lightly with a strong acceleration on opening loop? Or is it heasier with H3 bs ?

without boosting, the spin on short game (serve, push etc), xuperman black was surprising very spinny.
it feels like the topsheet graps the ball nicely.

on top spin shots, I felt the sponge didn't grab into the ball enough, and the shots lack power.
after boosting, the shots power came back, but the arc was a lot lower, so clipping the net quite a lot and need adjustment.
Today with Vis, the arc was a bit better.

To me, the quality of top sheet is still not H3, and sponge isn't there,
I would maybe still enjoy the Rxton 9 over the Xuperman, but I'm using retail version Xuperman and not special edition.
I will give it a few more sessions on Vis and see

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Do you find the 40d xuperman harder or
Softer than a h3 equivalent? What about speed after boosting?

unboost, xuperman felt softer
boost, xuperman felt harder.
i think DHS #22 sponge reacts to booster better

 

[Rinforzando]

I guess I'll pass my turn on this one.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

2nd test today on VIS
the feeling is getting better and better.

Maybe it has something to do with my proper boosting and not rushed (with previous test on Pro02).
The control today match those of Rxton 9 when I had to scoop the ball before hitting the floor and get a spinny shot over the net, without much flight (keep it low).
To me, not too many rubbers can keep the ball low, so this does show the performance of Xuperman black - with boosting, does allow for those fine margin shots.
too short, it will clip the net, too high, it will be killed.
I normally scoop side top spin, so droping short and if you come and push it, the ball will go long, and I love to see that.

My red maybe needs some boosting, the 38 is a bit hard to control and get the ball into the sponge. The punch, speed etc, is very good, but I prefer more spin over speed on BH as I can always use my forearm and wrist to generate speed.

So far, I am more impressed with Xuperman than the earlier tries.
Pairing on blade is very important.
Pro02 is the same construction, but just a thicker core, so more wood feel to the Vis

 

[greenbeanmachine]

Where did you buy red Xuperman rubbers? I can only find black ones...

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Where did you buy red Xuperman rubbers? I can only find black ones...

I get them from a guy that deals with Xu Xin directly.

Red 37 and 38 cake sponge, different to that of black rubber.
he has probably everything that Xuperman sells, including all the clothing, socks, towels, keyrings for bags etc etc

 

[Attitude]

I get them from a guy that deals with Xu Xin directly.

Red 37 and 38 cake sponge, different to that of black rubber.
he has probably everything that Xuperman sells, including all the clothing, socks, towels, keyrings for bags etc etc

Fascinating. Curious if or when they will bring their bh rubber to the wider market.

I finally made the switch. I tested the normal, pro and R9 against each other and decided for the normal xuperman version. Xuperman has a better more natural (for me) throw and has enough speed (especially boosted). And the advantages of the pro were too little to stick with it for the higher price.
So xuperman gets on my Atletico Power for this season

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Fascinating. Curious if or when they will bring their bh rubber to the wider market.

it is already out, over a year now.
I think maybe just the sellers are preferring to stock the FH rubber maybe (I didn't really check)

I finally made the switch. I tested the normal, pro and R9 against each other and decided for the normal xuperman version. Xuperman has a better more natural (for me) throw and has enough speed (especially boosted). And the advantages of the pro were too little to stick with it for the higher price.
So xuperman gets on my Atletico Power for this season

I prefer the R9 over the Xuperman,
back to using H3 now though

Xuperman isn't bad, I think just need more time with it and more users to experience it, then can have a better understanding on the rubber

 

[Zwill]

The problem with the Xuperman rubber is that it's also heavy compared to H3BS and not better either.
Other problem is that H3 BS prov maybe 10-15USD more than the normal Powerplay-X and about the same price as the pro version. H3 BS prov is priced well.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

The problem with the Xuperman rubber is that it's also heavy compared to H3BS and not better either.
Other problem is that H3 BS prov maybe 10-15USD more than the normal Powerplay-X and about the same price as the pro version. H3 BS prov is priced well.

I agree

 

[Attitude]

The problem with the Xuperman rubber is that it's also heavy compared to H3BS and not better either.
Other problem is that H3 BS prov maybe 10-15USD more than the normal Powerplay-X and about the same price as the pro version. H3 BS prov is priced well.

Yep id go back too, but i had durability issues with BS and im not quite fond of using a 40+ € rubber which can die after 2 weeks.

But we will see, in case xuperman might dissappoint too at some point i might go back either way^^

 

[Attitude]

it is already out, over a year now.
I think maybe just the sellers are preferring to stock the FH rubber maybe (I didn't really check)


I prefer the R9 over the Xuperman,
back to using H3 now though

Xuperman isn't bad, I think just need more time with it and more users to experience it, then can have a better understanding on the rubber

Maybe it is the difference in blades we used. I still have R9 on my custom alc and do like it on it. Especially because it feels so damn crispy and really fast.
But it behaves slightly different on my inner ac, so that xuperman feels a little bit better.

 

[Zwill]

Yep id go back too, but i had durability issues with BS and im not quite fond of using a 40+ € rubber which can die after 2 weeks.

But we will see, in case xuperman might dissappoint too at some point i might go back either way^^

I know how that feels too. I also kill rubbers too fast, maybe now I have a good sheet of H3BS and it holds up in south China for almost 3 weeks with daily 3 hours of play. But if it would die on me with weekly 6 hours of play in 2 weeks or something I would shed tears. But it's promising that it holds up well in 32 degrees and "over 9000" humidity.

But I think the Powerplay is a solid rubber just heavy, hope the durability of it is good too.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Maybe it is the difference in blades we used. I still have R9 on my custom alc and do like it on it. Especially because it feels so damn crispy and really fast.
But it behaves slightly different on my inner ac, so that xuperman feels a little bit better.

Xuperman feels better on my Viscaria than my Pro02

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

So, yesterday I spend some time with Huang Yan-Cheng.
Xupermans current highest ranked sponsored player.

HYC uses the special edition rubber on the FH and S1 blade to beat LJK last week.
Yep, I was holding the same setup that he beat LJK with (just new sheet of rubber on the blade yesterday)

 

[Zwill]

I also saw Xu Xin uses his own rubber, and not DHS in the national games.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

I also saw Xu Xin uses his own rubber, and not DHS in the national games.

yep
there is another CNT player too, but I'm not in the liberty to name until Xuperman announce it