Need help finding a good all to off- blade (carbon preferred)

[Chunkyrock]

Hi just asking for help choosing a new blade. I have used the Yasaka Sweden extra for quite some time now and want to upgrade. I felt someone’s carbon 5+2 blade and loved it. Any you can think of off the top of your head? Thanks.

 

[joshmak10]

Probably an innerforce alc would do you best, or maybe the alc.s version.

 

[mocker88]

Perhaps some inner carbon blades like Yinhe - M202, Sanwei - HC-5S or Palio - CAT could fit you. These are really nice.

 

[Julzig]

Looking at your profile picture, Donic Anders Lind Hexa Carbon. Is an inner carbon style blade. Anders says it isn't as fast but it's marketed more as an OFF to OFF+ blade. Compareable to Innerforce ALC by Butterfly I assume.
Btw, do you know what Blade you tried? Since the type of carbon does contribute a lot to its feel.

 

[Arne159]

I think Franziska Innerforce Zlc is a good blade. For me it was a perfect next blade after my acoustic

 

[Chunkyrock]

Looking at your profile picture, Donic Anders Lind Hexa Carbon. Is an inner carbon style blade. Anders says it isn't as fast but it's marketed more as an OFF to OFF+ blade. Compareable to Innerforce ALC by Butterfly I assume.
Btw, do you know what Blade you tried? Since the type of carbon does contribute a lot to its feel.

I’m not sure but I think it was the Zhang jike alc

 

[NetProphet]

Hi just asking for help choosing a new blade. I have used the Yasaka Sweden extra for quite some time now and want to upgrade. I felt someone’s carbon 5+2 blade and loved it. Any you can think of off the top of your head? Thanks.

I would second the shout for Innerforce ALC.
In many ways it plays like a 5 ply wooden blade and I find it easier to play with than the Nittaku Acoustic.
I'd compare it to the Ma Lin EO in some ways and it's only when you really open up to properly activate a hard Dignics sponge that you can notice the speed from the carbon. Again, not dissimilar to the speed from Nittaku Acoustic but because of the gears it's easier to play at different match speeds. None of the speed you don't want, until you want it...

 

[Chunkyrock]

I would second the shout for Innerforce ALC.
In many ways it plays like a 5 ply wooden blade and I find it easier to play with than the Nittaku Acoustic.
I'd compare it to the Ma Lin EO in some ways and it's only when you really open up to properly activate a hard Dignics sponge that you can notice the speed from the carbon. Again, not dissimilar to the speed from Nittaku Acoustic but because of the gears it's easier to play at different match speeds. None of the speed you don't want, until you want it...

Thank you so much this was very helpful

 

[CallMeZaddy]

Nittaku acoustic carbon innner g revision

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

Yasaka Ma Lin Soft Carbon.

 

[Lazer]

Donic Appelgren WC 89 or Nittaku S-CZ,
Those two blades are All+ - Off-.

Excellent outers with a spruce top. They are very similar in construction, differ a little bit in the layers thickness.

Cheers
L-zr

 

[Yuomay]

Yasaka Ma Lin Soft Carbon.

Or the normal Carbon.

I play my matches with the Sweden extra, and also have a ma lin carbon, I feel they are very close in how they feel in my hand.

 

[Nash77]

I think Franziska Innerforce Zlc is a good blade. For me it was a perfect next blade after my acoustic

I'm playing with the Acoustic right now, can you please describe why you changed and what advantage do you feel now with the ZLC?

 

[Arne159]

I'm playing with the Acoustic right now, can you please describe why you changed and what advantage do you feel now with the ZLC?

For me, the Acoustic (both sides with G1) felt difficult on the backhand, especially with G1. I love executing fast backhand punches, and while playing slow and carefully, it feels like a typical Acoustic. However, when I accelerate—even with a short stroke—the ZLC kicks in. This allows me to open up with a slow, spinny shot (not as spinny as the Acoustic) and then attack with speed and precision using less effort.

It plays like an all-wood blade in control but transforms into a fast, controlled carbon blade when hitting harder. This dynamic playing style is unique for me. I’ve tested several other blades, including the Viscaria and Ovtcharov TMXi Pro, but they lack the special kick the ZLC provides. You don’t get this feeling with an all-wood Acoustic.

That said, I’ve downgraded the rubber on my ZLC and now play with Rozena on both sides. I love the feeling.

 

[Chunkyrock]

I would second the shout for Innerforce ALC.
In many ways it plays like a 5 ply wooden blade and I find it easier to play with than the Nittaku Acoustic.
I'd compare it to the Ma Lin EO in some ways and it's only when you really open up to properly activate a hard Dignics sponge that you can notice the speed from the carbon. Again, not dissimilar to the speed from Nittaku Acoustic but because of the gears it's easier to play at different match speeds. None of the speed you don't want, until you want it...

I’m thinking about getting this blade, any forhand rubber you suggest for it?

 

[NetProphet]

I’m thinking about getting this blade, any forhand rubber you suggest for it?

I have D09c and D80 on it, using 09c on FH.
The arc is safe, the spin you can get is incredible and at mid distance from the table with the Carbon I find the 09c just lands and for the first time I get that extra gear from the sponge.
The D80 is an excellent FH rubber too and is even better at that distance and further back but when twiddling I haven't really got the 09c to work on BH.
Flicks, short play and close to table all fine but further back the 09c isn't my BH rubber so D80 better for me there although others in here actually play 09c on BH no problem...

Take everything I say under the title of 'my experience' knowing I'm a learning intermediate and not at the level to tell anyone what rubber is best for their technique/play style but D80 or 09c do get my vote.
It depends on how you play too. I came to 09c because I had Rakza Z for 18 mths precious so was already in Hybrid mode.
Just depends what you want from a FH rubber as they're quite different.

 

[NetProphet]

I’m thinking about getting this blade, any forhand rubber you suggest for it?

Hi
Did you decide on your setup yet?

 

[chinacurious]

Hi just asking for help choosing a new blade. I have used the Yasaka Sweden extra for quite some time now and want to upgrade. I felt someone’s carbon 5+2 blade and loved it. Any you can think of off the top of your head? Thanks.

When you tried out the 5+2 blade, did you also check if you like it in service, push game and opening heavy backspin or just open play? The fun you can have in open game can be deceiving.

 

[Brs]

Yasaka Ma Lin Soft Carbon.

this is the answer

 

[Chunkyrock]

Choose my blade now I’m using the applegreen wc 89