I want opinions on my chances of pro

[Dr Evil]

Seems like a poor use of time and money to go abroad until you really have to do it, unless the reason you're doing it is just that you want to spend a time in a different country. For tt training, there are plenty of good places in the US for juniors of your age and level and well above. If you're not satisfied where you are, you could try Lily Yip in New Jersey which I think is pretty close to where you live.

 

[ThePongCommenter]

Seems like a poor use of time and money to go abroad until you really have to do it, unless the reason you're doing it is just that you want to spend a time in a different country. For tt training, there are plenty of good places in the US for juniors of your age and level and well above. If you're not satisfied where you are, you could try Lily Yip in New Jersey which I think is pretty close to where you live.

He's been told this multiple times dating back to nearly a year ago but seems not to give that point any regard. I believe he also stated that he couldn't even get to the top tier club in his local area because an hour or so was too far but not sure if that changed since he posted.

 

[lightspin]

I agree with Dr. Evil. Stay in the USA. All the travel and housing money you are going to waste could be spent on more hours of practice with people better than you. Since they are better than you, occasionally you can ask them how they do things you cannot. Many young players unfortunately have a delusion that China (or another country) has some sort of magical techniques that for some reason they are going to teach you, a foreigner, so you can dominate the table tennis world. This is not the case. The formula these other countries follow is simple:

1) Start early preferably at age 2
2) Have good practice partners and coaches. Eventually around age 8 and onward you play 6 hours a day. Workout for 1 hour a day and then serve 1 hour a day.
3) Practice like this until you are 18. The kids who don't advance fast enough are thrown by the wayside.

This unfortunately dooms USA players to be a capped at certain level. If you want to be a world class player, the cards have to be dealt in a very specific and rare way. This is true of any kid in the USA, not just KT.

 

[Yurifi]

didn't want to go this deep but, the hell, lets do it ...

so, I started playing at the age of 4. at the age of 10 I was already champion of capital region, and that is a tournament with no age restriction. my dad was my coach, that I have to say, and he was one of the best. he produced several national champions and also mixed double european youth champion and was in team of coaches with the European Youth Champion. so - I just woke up and was surrounded with great table tennis. but ...

I had to practice. I had to do all the work. my dad was just a guide. in what is today a U13 category, I was top 5 players in the country and 3rd in doubles. in U15 category I was top 3 in the country, vice-champion in the mixed doubles, third in doubles. got called into national selection, went onto national selection camps, got invited into camps in neighbouring countries. I did all that. but when it came to talks about staying there and competing, it all stopped with - he's a great great talent, but he is too young, lets wait a bit more.

and that is what you have to have in mind. you are young, you can go to training camps abroad, but it is not necessary that they will pick you up. that is why I am suggesting stay in the US and go up the ranks there. try to get into national selection. and then, at the age of 17 or 18, try to do what you are trying to do. I would if I wouldn't destroy my left ankle which put me on the sidelines for one year at the age of 16. and math. if it weren't for those two things ... maybe I would make it into the pros. but at the age of 18 or even later. no matter what - you wont be able to do it at the age of 13 or 15 ... rare were able to do it. probably can count them on fingers of one hand.

still, these years are extremely important for development of your game. camps abroad, yes, okay, but - have a good foundation at home, in the US. and then, at the age of 17 or 18, if you are good enough, which I truly believe you could be - do it, do the jump. I know I would, if I could.

 

[Takkyu_wa_inochi]

didn't want to go this deep but, the hell, lets do it ...

so, I started playing at the age of 4. at the age of 10 I was already champion of capital region, and that is a tournament with no age restriction. my dad was my coach, that I have to say, and he was one of the best. he produced several national champions and also mixed double european youth champion and was in team of coaches with the European Youth Champion. so - I just woke up and was surrounded with great table tennis. but ...

I had to practice. I had to do all the work. my dad was just a guide. in what is today a U13 category, I was top 5 players in the country and 3rd in doubles. in U15 category I was top 3 in the country, vice-champion in the mixed doubles, third in doubles. got called into national selection, went onto national selection camps, got invited into camps in neighbouring countries. I did all that. but when it came to talks about staying there and competing, it all stopped with - he's a great great talent, but he is too young, lets wait a bit more.

and that is what you have to have in mind. you are young, you can go to training camps abroad, but it is not necessary that they will pick you up. that is why I am suggesting stay in the US and go up the ranks there. try to get into national selection. and then, at the age of 17 or 18, try to do what you are trying to do. I would if I wouldn't destroy my left ankle which put me on the sidelines for one year at the age of 16. and math. if it weren't for those two things ... maybe I would make it into the pros. but at the age of 18 or even later. no matter what - you wont be able to do it at the age of 13 or 15 ... rare were able to do it. probably can count them on fingers of one hand.

still, these years are extremely important for development of your game. camps abroad, yes, okay, but - have a good foundation at home, in the US. and then, at the age of 17 or 18, if you are good enough, which I truly believe you could be - do it, do the jump. I know I would, if I could.

and now how old are you and at what level did you play ?

 

[Yurifi]

and now how old are you and at what level did you play ?

now I am 43. when I recovered after the injury I still managed to reach top 10 in U17 category, playing in top national league. at the age of 18 we moved into a small town and my dad and I we kind of tried to start a new club. which we kind of did and after my short spell as a pro in national league (nasty story, won’t bring it up here) I stopped playing and went all in as a student at 21 or 22 ... and forgot about table tennis.
which was probably one of the biggest mistakes if not the biggest one I did in my life.

 

[Matt Hetherington]

I agree with Dr. Evil. Stay in the USA. All the travel and housing money you are going to waste could be spent on more hours of practice with people better than you. Since they are better than you, occasionally you can ask them how they do things you cannot. Many young players unfortunately have a delusion that China (or another country) has some sort of magical techniques that for some reason they are going to teach you, a foreigner, so you can dominate the table tennis world. This is not the case. The formula these other countries follow is simple:

1) Start early preferably at age 2
2) Have good practice partners and coaches. Eventually around age 8 and onward you play 6 hours a day. Workout for 1 hour a day and then serve 1 hour a day.
3) Practice like this until you are 18. The kids who don't advance fast enough are thrown by the wayside.

This unfortunately dooms USA players to be a capped at certain level. If you want to be a world class player, the cards have to be dealt in a very specific and rare way. This is true of any kid in the USA, not just KT.

With China it’s more about structure. They aren’t going to help you or give much guidance, but you can practice 6-8 hours a day, 7 days a week there. That infrastructure is not really available in the US and it’s much less expensive in China by comparison.

If you go in with the understanding that it’s all about repetition and training volume it’s fine, you just have to be mature enough to guide yourself - that’s where the age comes into question, I would say any players under 16 should still travel there with a coach - otherwise that element will be missing.

 

[KTableTennis]

Say I went to germany or sweden, how much per school year would this cost

 

[ThePongCommenter]

Say I went to germany or sweden, how much per school year would this cost

Every club and school in all of Germany and Sweden all have the exact same prices for everything regardless of how much training you want to get.

 

[KTableTennis]

Every club and school in all of Germany and Sweden all have the exact same prices for everything regardless of how much training you want to get.

which would be how much

 

[joshmak10]

which would be how much

This is something you can google

 

[ThePongCommenter]

This is something you can google

where can i find google

 

[willyum]

just send the club an email i believe they have .. simple as that in regards to cost. or check club website

 

[mamedium]

where can i find google

just google "google"! works for me

 

[JJ Ng]

I have not commented here for a while. I think the last comment I put on this thread is when I suggested that OP to follow the foot steps of Dan and Tom. Become a very very good player and start a YouTube channel and make some good videos.

For one, I don't think he will make it to top 100 in the world. That's why I suggested going into social media later.

But in addition, he is just a 13 year old kid. So why are we (the adults) talking to him so harshly? He can ask. If you don't want to answer, then don't. Let this thread die on its own.

I honestly have not checked this thread for 6 months. That's a good strategy for me. I am not all worked up at all.

And I agree with the moderator. I don't know I would let my 13 year old daughter interacts with adults like this online.

I just don't see why people need to go back and forth with a 13-year old kid on an online forum.

The kid (he is a KID) asks a question. If you don't want to answer, then just skip to other threads on the forum. At some point, it is like adults cyber bullying a kid on TTD forum. We have to draw a line somewhere.

 

[joshmak10]

where can i find google

Go on to Yahoo to look it up

 

[Takkyu_wa_inochi]

Go on to Yahoo to look it up

he should upgrade to ChatGPT. ChatGPT could even become his coach

 

[Singshasha]

But in addition, he is just a 13 year old kid. So why are we (the adults) talking to him so harshly? He can ask. If you don't want to answer, then don't. Let this thread die on its own.


And I agree with the moderator. I don't know I would let my 13 year old daughter interacts with adults like this online.

The kid (he is a KID) asks a question. If you don't want to answer, then just skip to other threads on the forum. At some point, it is like adults cyber bullying a kid on TTD forum. We have to draw a line somewhere.

The forum rules allows for 13 year olds, which to me is too young.
If the forum allows, then age should not be a factor.

If age is a factor, the kid should join other groups that suits his age, and that group should consist of his coaches, his parents and no one else.

Since he doesn't feel that group is suiting his needs and he chooses (again, the forum is allowing his age), then he need to face the consequences of asking entitled questions.

With modern age teenagers, 13 years old is not a kid any more, especially for table tennis pros. There has been 13 years old challenging pro adults.

The kid (because he is acting like one) wants to be a pro, then he should also mature up and act like one. Pro’s didn’t get to pro status by spoon feeding. If he wants, he needs to go and communicate with those schools and ask how much. For him to be consistently asking those questions on the forum, to me, he is more a troll than a kid.

It is probably better for him to face reality than to assume spoon feeding is his only solution.

He probably asked his parents the same question/s so many times, of which the answer was not provided for various reasons, maybe one of the reason is that the parents knows him more than any one else.

I also want to know why he can’t travel 1 hour to another stronger club, any forum member know the kids coaches or parents to get the answer?

He isn’t even willing to travel an hour and he is talking about moving continents as a minor, hilarious.

 

[Singshasha]

he should upgrade to ChatGPT. ChatGPT could even become his coach

He wants you to do it for him!
You will also turn pro before he does!

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

He wants you to do it for him!
You will also turn pro before he does!

Chat told me to continue using D09C on fh while I insist on Zyre03 2.7mm on fh.
We are now not on talking term until chat apologizes to me.