New setup (moving into carbon)

[merlin el mago]

If you have money the best solution is to spend in a good coach and train and compete as much as you can.

 

[Anarki]

OP didn't say he wants something similar feeling, did he? He said he wants a faster setup with a tacky topsheet.

His current rubber is likely too soft to begin with; that's why he is changing. That's a 42deg~ Shore O rubber.

My current setup is around 53/48 Shore O, and I could go a bit higher on the backhand hardness. I'm not some super player; higher beginner or lower intermediate is probably accurate. Going softer just increases my injury risk, like how using Europe DF on the backhand gave me shoulder pain due to how slow it is and how large of a swing it requires, despite topsheet tensioning.

I can do slow, spinny shots all the same, despite the Young's modulus differing about +90% on the Moon Speed I'm using right now vs the Europe DF.

There's a good chance OP is similar or better skill to me judging by the descriptions; so what's the problem?

EDIT: Also, FX-P is 40.1 +-1 and FX-S is 42 +-1 Shore O. The sponges are effectively the same hardness; both are super soft. IIRC they differ in topsheet and pip geometry.

Yeah you are right , i dont want something similiar , i wouldnt change my setup if i want something similiar , thats a good point, i want to get something faster but dont wanna cross thrashhold when the setup will be too much for me, but also i want some very good blade that will "grow" with me , so i will not change it for years , meanwhile i dont need to have instant improve , i know it takes some time to be "fit" with the new setup so my play will need to be adjust a bit. Thats why i would like to go for FLHC blade but put there some slower rubbers and i can change to bit faster rubbers later when i will be able to handle new setup. I just wanted to know if it will not be too much.

i am also interrested into Felix lebrun Off- blade ,it also could work i think , because it is full wood , but in the long time aspect, i would like to have inner carbon with some sticky rubbers

 

[DBsystem78]

just take innercarbon then you can keep it very long time then after few years you can move to outercarbon if you want more speed there is really fast innercarbon blades as well

 

[Anarki]

just take innercarbon then you can keep it very long time then after few years you can move to outercarbon if you want more speed there is really fast innercarbon blades as well

as i undestand the inner carbon should be more "friendly" in meaning it keeps control feeling because carbon layer is "activated" after stronger strikes , but for the shorter and less power strike it is handled by the outter wood , beside outter carbon is hitted "everytime" so there is very less control feeling so it requires more skilled player to handle it.

Thats why i would go for this version to have an ability to improve also.

 

[Archosaurus]

The whole blade is activated at the same time, it's complicated. In general I would say that yes, typically inner carbon blades are less elastic in low force shots.

Thing is that ultimately the rubber and sponge is the thing that's actually grabbing the ball and it's doing 99% of the deflection, the blade is largely just a platform for that and is designed to comply a little to allow for more feel and shots which leave the blade slower than they came in.

 

[Anarki]

The whole blade is activated at the same time, it's complicated. In general I would say that yes, typically inner carbon blades are less elastic in low force shots.

Thing is that ultimately the rubber and sponge is the thing that's actually grabbing the ball and it's doing 99% of the deflection, the blade is largely just a platform for that and is designed to comply a little to allow for more feel and shots which leave the blade slower than they came in.

so it should be ok to get FLHC blade and put there some slower rubbers first? FX-P or something slightly faster ?

 

[banbekas]

I'd say just get an outer carbon blade and grow with it as it will last you for a long time and most of the time the behavior of the blade is predictable because you know the carbon immediately activate.

Inner carbon is the opposite of this. The carbon often activates abruptly and throw off your timing. Control-wise they are in the same ball park, and inner carbon isn't any slower or faster than outer carbon.

Getting a thinner outer carbon is the key here. A 5.6 mm thick outer carbon like Milagro and Telson Speed has control in spade while extremely powerful.

 

[Archosaurus]

so it should be ok to get FLHC blade and put there some slower rubbers first? FX-P or something slightly faster ?

Ideally it's probably best to change one part at a time, a little at a time. Maybe change the blade, keep your rubbers for a month or two, then change your stronger wing's rubber, and so on.