Loki RXTON 9 new sponge.

[Grumms]

And what about the Telson Superthick that was supposed to be released ?

 

[Kilogramme]

And what about the Telson Superthick that was supposed to be released ?

Is that some sort of Zyre like rubber ? Seems like many chinese brand are releasing thick sponge rubber.

 

[Wakkibatty]

And what about the Telson Superthick that was supposed to be released ?

The June 2026 sales catalogue Yummy sent me doesn't list a price for that particular model, which usually means it's still in development (they did this with the R7 as well in previous years).

If I had to guess 🤔 (...and I am...) then maybe the superthick Telson rubber will be launched as one of their flagship models, once they shift the rest of their product lines over to their new sponge. Much as I like the current Telson 100 Hyper, I can't see it working too well if they were simply to try making its current sponge thicker. Most likely they would have to shift to a different sponge altogether.

I wonder if Loki cancelling / relaunching so many of its current rubbers is due to the development and apparent success of the Butterfly Zyre 🤔🤔

Butterfly caught a lot of competing manufacturers flat footed when it released the Tenergy 05 -- It took other factories a really long time to catch up.

I'm therefore guessing that there's a lot of mid-upper tier brands like Loki that really don't want to be left behind again. If this change permanently fixes Loki's recurrent QA problems of the past then it can only be a good thing.

(And to be fair, while I'm gonna miss the R9 National, I can't deny the R9 OS that replaced also it generates a LOT more spin on average 😎😎).

 

[Archo]

Good luck to Loki and other manufs without serious R&D and engineering knowledge if they wanna replicate something like Zyre. Existing rubbers already have topsheet wear and bubbling issues, and a super thin topsheet will only exaggerate those.

 

[Grumms]

Is that some sort of Zyre like rubber ? Seems like many chinese brand are releasing thick sponge rubber.

If they want to compete with the Zyre, they have to change not only the thickness, but also the sponge. Telson 100 needs lots of boosting to be close to ESN rubbers. And it's weird to keep the Telson name for a Zyre clone, because Telson was an BH advertised rubber.

 

[Kilogramme]

Good luck to Loki and other manufs without serious R&D and engineering knowledge if they wanna replicate something like Zyre. Existing rubbers already have topsheet wear and bubbling issues, and a super thin topsheet will only exaggerate those.

Well let's hope other brands brings innovation not just Butterfly in the rubber section.
To my knowledge, the first hybrid was Stiga genesis (which btw was a terrible rubber). Other than that, BTY was the only one innovating with spring sponge, new top sheet long lasting tech with dignics, and now Zyre.
China is leading in many areas now, tech, car, space, energy. But somehow the number 1 sport in the country, they don't innovate much or proves that they are trying to become the best. Seems odd to me. They have almost unlimited brain ressources and money to present new tech. Idk, for pips the alignment does make a difference, but for backside, I feel like they are all arranged the same. Could be an "idea" for a new rubber ? Could a super small sponge with long pips backside could be a thing too ? Would be nice to release one rubber.

 

[Archo]

Well let's hope other brands brings innovation not just Butterfly in the rubber section.
To my knowledge, the first hybrid was Stiga genesis (which btw was a terrible rubber). Other than that, BTY was the only one innovating with spring sponge, new top sheet long lasting tech with dignics, and now Zyre.
China is leading in many areas now, tech, car, space, energy. But somehow the number 1 sport in the country, they don't innovate much or proves that they are trying to become the best. Seems odd to me. They have almost unlimited brain ressources and money to present new tech. Idk, for pips the alignment does make a difference, but for backside, I feel like they are all arranged the same. Could be an "idea" for a new rubber ? Could a super small sponge with long pips backside could be a thing too ? Would be nice to release one rubber.

Really long pips and a really thin sponge would have super high load sensitivity and a very low input force cap, so it'd be worse in every way for grip; but it'd be very stable and not very dynamic.