Butterfly Rubbers on Freitas ALC Blade

[noidkmaybe]

I want to start this off with full honesty, I know that equipment isn't as important as technique and just straight up consistent practice. Also I'm an EJ at heart so please don't mind me. Anyways... I got a Freitas ALC as the title suggests and I'm looking for rubbers i can still learn with. I was originally looking at Rozena 2.1 on FH and Rozena 1.9 on backhand. Then i got into a rabbit hole of watching reviews about the glayzer and glayzer 09c. I'm really interested in glayzer 09c for my forehand since i like hybrid type rubbers but i am afraid it would be too hard for me to loop backspin balls (This shot is really difficult for me. I can loop medium/strong backspin balls 1-2/10 times. its just a shot i cant seem to figure out for consistency). So, should I go with the safe option of both rozenas? or... should i risk it for the biscuit with glayzer 09c on fh but 1.9mm with rozena/glayzer on the backhand. Again, I'm stubborn and know that the best option is to use an all wood blade with controlled rubber but disregarding that, what would yall do? what would you advice me to do? The setup I'm using now is the ma lin carbon with donic bluegrip j2 FH and Nittaku fastarc g-1 bh.

 

[Tyce]

I think the question is what makes it difficult for you to loop those backspin balls?
Are you going too hard at it? Do they fly over and hard into the net?
Or are you mostly dumping them into the net even on your best slower shots?
Or do you often completely miss the ball?

There's so much that could be the problem here, bat angle, too much forward impact, too little forward impact, swing direction... No saying if your issue will be affected by picking G09c. However I do think it's not going to be super different from J2

 

[steve888]

Perfect timing - I am still working out rubbers for this blade to (just got it second hand). On the forehand I have tried two rubbers - Rozena (2.1) and Glayzer (2.1). Rozena is faster but more catapult so great for driving however found the touch shots Glayzer is much better and it also seems to have better control overall (more dwell for outercarbon) - however you do lose a little in speed.

I did try dignics 05 briefly but it was to fast. I use an old slow rubber on the BH - Sriver (2.1) nice and controlled.

I am still working out whether to try the Nittaku G1 or Razka X on the forehand. I like the dwell time on the Freitas better than a lot of outer carbon blades like the Timoboll etc.

It does have a lower throw than my innerforce blade though so can hit into the net a bit but I do find it a bit faster and easier to attack than the innerforce blade.

 

[noidkmaybe]

I think the question is what makes it difficult for you to loop those backspin balls?
Are you going too hard at it? Do they fly over and hard into the net?
Or are you mostly dumping them into the net even on your best slower shots?
Or do you often completely miss the ball?

There's so much that could be the problem here, bat angle, too much forward impact, too little forward impact, swing direction... No saying if your issue will be affected by picking G09c. However I do think it's not going to be super different from J2

I’m not sure exactly since the smallest adjustment can change a shot drastically. Most of the time I put it in the net and then sometimes I hit it to hard and it goes out the table (or it’s my racket angle). So basically everything that could go wrong is what I’m experiencing. I think I overthink how I’m supposed to hit the shot which leads to me under or over correcting my wrist, back swing, how hard/soft to brush, etc. On top of all that I have to judge how much spin is on the ball. (The coach at my clubs usually chops with Hurricane and sometimes he chops with short pips).

 

[noidkmaybe]

Perfect timing - I am still working out rubbers for this blade to (just got it second hand). On the forehand I have tried two rubbers - Rozena (2.1) and Glayzer (2.1). Rozena is faster but more catapult so great for driving however found the touch shots Glayzer is much better and it also seems to have better control overall (more dwell for outercarbon) - however you do lose a little in speed.

I did try dignics 05 briefly but it was to fast. I use an old slow rubber on the BH - Sriver (2.1) nice and controlled.

I am still working out whether to try the Nittaku G1 or Razka X on the forehand. I like the dwell time on the Freitas better than a lot of outer carbon blades like the Timoboll etc.

It does have a lower throw than my innerforce blade though so can hit into the net a bit but I do find it a bit faster and easier to attack than the innerforce blade.

So what would you recommend currently if you had to pick a FH and BH rubber with this blade? The only reasons why I wanted glayzer 09c on my Fh is because I’ve read it has high throw and I personally like hybrid rubbers on my forehand. I still wouldn’t mind going with rozena or Glayzer. Maybe going with rozena 1.9mm instead of 2.1 would help with control and control the catapult

 

[Tyce]

I’m not sure exactly since the smallest adjustment can change a shot drastically. Most of the time I put it in the net and then sometimes I hit it to hard and it goes out the table (or it’s my racket angle). So basically everything that could go wrong is what I’m experiencing. I think I overthink how I’m supposed to hit the shot which leads to me under or over correcting my wrist, back swing, how hard/soft to brush, etc. On top of all that I have to judge how much spin is on the ball. (The coach at my clubs usually chops with Hurricane and sometimes he chops with short pips).

I don't think that's a rubber issue then. Just pick what feels right and learn to use it.
If your coach uses hurricane he can help you use the tacky characteristics, too.

Also, have you asked your coach for advice about your current equipment? Does he think it's too hard, or not right for you? The advice of someone who knows how you play is much more valuable.

 

[steve888]

So what would you recommend currently if you had to pick a FH and BH rubber with this blade? The only reasons why I wanted glayzer 09c on my Fh is because I’ve read it has high throw and I personally like hybrid rubbers on my forehand. I still wouldn’t mind going with rozena or Glayzer. Maybe going with rozena 1.9mm instead of 2.1 would help with control and control the catapult

Hi,
Glayzer 09c would be very controlled, spinny but probably on the slower end - never used it. I have used the dignics 09c though. The normal glayzer is quite good on the Freitas blade on the Forehand.

 

[noidkmaybe]

Hi,
Glayzer 09c would be very controlled, spinny but probably on the slower end - never used it. I have used the dignics 09c though. The normal glayzer is quite good on the Freitas blade on the Forehand.

So, would you say glayzer FH and Rozena BH is a good call? or Rozena both sides

 

[steve888]

An update - nittaku g1 (max) goes really well with Freitas blade on the forehand - more control than Rozena and slightly faster than glayzer

 

[Hongxiang Lin]

If you want spin-forgiving loopability: Rozena FH 2.1 (or 2.0) is excellent for learning heavy topspin and handling backspin. For the BH, keeping a medium sponge (1.9) helps placement and block control.

If you already have decent wrist/forearm technique and want more bite, Glaze 09c on the FH will reward aggressive looping, but it's less forgiving on short, heavy backspin. Only pick 09c if you can consistently lift heavy underspin.