How do these setups compare

[Haine]

Hi all,

I'm looking into buying a new setup and would like some extra advice. I don't have much opportunity to test some of these rubbers and frames.

Current setup:
Andro Timber 7 OFF
FH: Andro Plaxon 525 / Andro Roxon pro 500
BH: Tibhar Aurus

What I'm looking at now:
Stiga Cybershape Carbon [It's pretty expensive, but I think it might be cool to try]
FH: Nittaku Fastarc G-1
BH: Tibhar Aurus Soft

How do these setups compare? Do I lose a lot of speed on my FH? I feel like it's a slightly slower rubber with faster frame, so might work out similarly?

I tend to like speedy setups on FH which still allow a lot of spin in a touch/serve game. Any other candidates for FH rubber?

 

[Tyce]

The blade will be significantly faster, and tbh I don't see how Fastarc G1 is slower. It's good stuff though.
Unless there's something you don't like about Aurus normal, I wouldn't switch to soft. It'll bottom out easier on the cybershape carbon.

 

[Haine]

The blade will be significantly faster, and tbh I don't see how Fastarc G1 is slower. It's good stuff though.
Unless there's something you don't like about Aurus normal, I wouldn't switch to soft. It'll bottom out easier on the cybershape carbon.

My concern was with a faster blade, I may lose some control on my BH if I keep the same rubber, so going for something a bit softer..
Perhaps the change won't be as bad to just keep the same rubber?

 

[impluse101]

best not to change to many factors (blade,fh, bh) all at the same time

 

[Tyce]

My concern was with a faster blade, I may lose some control on my BH if I keep the same rubber, so going for something a bit softer..
Perhaps the change won't be as bad to just keep the same rubber?

Honestly, you will be losing control switching from your current setup, it's a very control oriented bat. Aurus is a good control oriented rubber.
Depending on your level, I would pass on the carbon Cybershape.
I see a Dutch flag here, so I can make some assumptions

If you are playing senior league, as a matter of perspective, you will still see 90% play with all-wood in 4th class, and even still over 50% in 3rd. If you don't see yourself going to say a 1200+ rating in the next two years, the cybershape carbon is probably going to be more of a hindrance than help you.

Cybershape also comes in all wood variants if you like it, and I can tell you they are much easier to play.

I can recommend going to Game11 (Zeist) where they have 20 or so tryout setups in the store to have a go with. Bring someone who can easily play your level and have some decent time with the stuff there. Do watch the opening days though, they're closed on some weekdays.
When you buy something "old" it might be a good idea to bring a scale. I got a Korbel but it's really light probably stock that hasn't sold in years.

 

[Aizen]

How do these setups compare? Do I lose a lot of speed on my FH? I feel like it's a slightly slower rubber with faster frame, so might work out similarly?

I tend to like speedy setups on FH which still allow a lot of spin in a touch/serve game. Any other candidates for FH rubber?

I don't think G1 is slower than Andro Roxon / plaxon (I don't remember exactly, but I have played similar rubber in speed glue era) I assume you got this impression from revspin.net scores. (these rubbers should be from pretty old generation)

Heavy ➕ to @Tyce , you should try options if you can, even there is no same setup you look for, you may obtain some expectancy rather than complete blind buying.

 

[Ultravisitor]

Just keep the same rubbers if you can. If you're used to harder rubbers, you might feel the opposite. I feel more control on harder rubbers.

 

[NetProphet]

Hi all,

I'm looking into buying a new setup and would like some extra advice. I don't have much opportunity to test some of these rubbers and frames.

Current setup:
Andro Timber 7 OFF
FH: Andro Plaxon 525 / Andro Roxon pro 500
BH: Tibhar Aurus

What I'm looking at now:
Stiga Cybershape Carbon [It's pretty expensive, but I think it might be cool to try]
FH: Nittaku Fastarc G-1
BH: Tibhar Aurus Soft

How do these setups compare? Do I lose a lot of speed on my FH? I feel like it's a slightly slower rubber with faster frame, so might work out similarly?

I tend to like speedy setups on FH which still allow a lot of spin in a touch/serve game. Any other candidates for FH rubber?

If you're changing just for the sake of it you're gonna have a serious lack of control V what you're already used to. Cool if you're just doing it for fun to try out something new but if you're looking at this switch as a way to improve your game then a setup from the Internet is unlikely to help.
Play other people's equip and see how it's different from your own and you can make a real decision based on how it actually feels.
G1 has a way that it needs to be played (attacking, playing fwd) that is different from your current rubbers.
The carbon CS (I've played it) is a plank. Yes you can impart power and speed to the ball but you can't control it, not without a lot of practice and good technique!
Switch from Aurus to Aurus soft may be a good one but that depends on how you are playing with your current rubbers and what issues you are trying to address.

I would personally advise to stay away from the CSC unless you are trying it with your current rubbers. At least that way you reduce the variables cos otherwise it's seriously odds on that you're gonna start losing to players you've previously been beating. Just on percentages it's almost certainly gonna make you a few points worse in every game and that blade is so unforgiving the adjustment to it and the rubbers will be almost impossible and you'll hate it.
There's probably a 10% chance you like it I suppose but the surest way to invest your cash wisely is coaching with your current setup or buying equipment that you've tried.

 

[Amayzde]

From someone that tried Cybershape for some time, I have to warn you about the difference in weight distribution.

The Cyberschape is designed to have lass material thowards the handle and more material around the hitting area. This makes it more head heavy. I play with quite a lose wrist so for me it took some time to get used to.

Eventually I was used to the weight, but the venue of our club is considered to be quite slow compared to venues at other clubs. This made it really difficult for me to adjust to venues that were faster (which is basically every venue). I was hitting edge after edge after edge when the rallies became somewhat fast. Of course you will notice this difference in speed with any setup, but In my personal experience with the Cybershape it was even more apparent.

This made me eventually try a regular blade again. I remember that moment very well because that day I played better then the 2 months I played with Cybershape.

I believe the Cybershape is more suited for players that like to hit the ball more flat. And me being a more spin oriented player might not be a good match.

Long story short: It wasnt for me. So know that it might be an expensive bad buy if the same applies to you. I reccommend you try it first (if possible) before buying.

If you still want to buy it, all I can recommend is to buy the Truls version (with the weights). Then you have the option to change the balance of your setup.

As for the rubbers, you cant go wrong with the Fastarc series;
Good technique = G-1
Decent technique = C-1
Underdeveloped technique = S-1

Even if you have good technique but you prefer a softer rubber, C-1 is still fantastic.

 

[Haine]

Honestly, you will be losing control switching from your current setup, it's a very control oriented bat. Aurus is a good control oriented rubber.
Depending on your level, I would pass on the carbon Cybershape.
I see a Dutch flag here, so I can make some assumptions

If you are playing senior league, as a matter of perspective, you will still see 90% play with all-wood in 4th class, and even still over 50% in 3rd. If you don't see yourself going to say a 1200+ rating in the next two years, the cybershape carbon is probably going to be more of a hindrance than help you.

Cybershape also comes in all wood variants if you like it, and I can tell you they are much easier to play.

I can recommend going to Game11 (Zeist) where they have 20 or so tryout setups in the store to have a go with. Bring someone who can easily play your level and have some decent time with the stuff there. Do watch the opening days though, they're closed on some weekdays.
When you buy something "old" it might be a good idea to bring a scale. I got a Korbel but it's really light probably stock that hasn't sold in years.

Ah, I missed the dutch flag at first. Indeed, I currently play 3rd class (zuidwest), my rating is floating around 1200-1250. Steady for a couple of years, not so much active training. I'd say I have a good FH attack for my level (both spin and flat hits), a mediocre backhand attack but some good push/block control.
Zeist is far...

Cybershape wood is also a consideration. As others mentioned, I probably indeed got the speed ratings from Revspin and had the impression the G1 would be a bit slower, but it seems that's not the case. If I can't even look at the ratings, it becomes even more difficult.
I just tend to buy a new setup every 5 years or so, so I don't have much option to change one at a time (especially now that suddenly my old FH is discontinued).

Historically I tend to play with faster rubbers than most people around me. Especially in my club there is not so many players in the 3rd class.

Thanks for all the advices here!

It sounds like maybe I'm better off getting the cybershape Wood (with CWT), then the G1 and sticking to the Tibhar Aurus?

 

[Tyce]

I think that's a great idea if you really like to go cyber. I play zuidwest too (Scyedam)