Top ply for spinn

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Which kind of blade top ply wood is best suited for generating spin according by you guys...
I do not care of which type of blade ... i`m only interesting about the material of top ply.
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I think this is a great question. I do think what is under the top ply matters as well. For instance, Koto is better for generating spin if Zylon (ZLF, no carbon) or ALC is under it than if it has anything else under it.

Another detail, for higher level players, the answer may change:

But, as a general statement, for beginners, a softer ply like Limba which helps you hold the ball on the blade for longer. because of the extra dwell time to help you generate more spin. So that is going to work better for generating spin for someone who is at a lower level than say, 2200 (USATT rating).

And for a semi-pro level and higher, where their contact is so precise, they may do better with a harder top ply like Koto. The harder top ply requires more precision to generate spin, but if you have that precision, it may help generate more spin.

This may in fact be why at the top level, so many players use Koto. But Waldner used Limba as his top ply. And he generated a lot of spin.

The Koto top ply may be more about speed than spin. But I have heard that, for top players Koto may work better for generating spin.

Also, if you don't loop well, I am not so sure Hinoki works that well. But once you are looping, Hinoki can really help you generate a lot of spin. Spin and speed. Hinoki really helps you grab and spin the ball when you loop.

But in the end it is really about personal preference. Some players have a touch, feel and contact that works better with one kind of wood and other players have a touch, feel and contact that works with a different kind of wood.
 
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I think this is a great question. I do think what is under the top ply matters as well. For instance, Koto is better for generating spin if Zylon (ZLF, no carbon) or ALC is under it than if it has anything else under it.

Another detail, for higher level players, the answer may change:

But, as a general statement, for beginners, a softer ply like Limba which helps you hold the ball on the blade for longer. because of the extra dwell time to help you generate more spin. So that is going to work better for generating spin for someone who is at a lower level than say, 2200 (USATT rating).

And for a semi-pro level and higher, where their contact is so precise, they may do better with a harder top ply like Koto. The harder top ply requires more precision to generate spin, but if you have that precision, it may help generate more spin.

This may in fact be why at the top level, so many players use Koto. But Waldner used Limba as his top ply. And he generated a lot of spin.

The Koto top ply may be more about speed than spin. But I have heard that, for top players Koto may work better for generating spin.

Also, if you don't loop well, I am not so sure Hinoki works that well. But once you are looping, Hinoki can really help you generate a lot of spin. Spin and speed. Hinoki really helps you grab and spin the ball when you loop.

But in the end it is really about personal preference. Some players have a touch, feel and contact that works better with one kind of wood and other players have a touch, feel and contact that works with a different kind of wood.
Yes i agree on this and it is more complicated ..there is also a big influence by the glue type it self...
But i just want to ask what do you guys feel is the best top ply for spin generation.
I`m building a new blade for my self ... and i have some personal favorites chosen and the core is already set but still i want to ask what is the best what i might forgotten.
For example my coach says it is poplar and birch wood , according which i`m creating a blade for him .
But to be honest i`m searching for little bit more eye catching material then this two ..
I want to the blade also looks good not so boring .
 
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Greetings,

Yes i agree on this and it is more complicated ..there is also a big influence by the glue type it self...
But i just want to ask what do you guys feel is the best top ply for spin generation.
I`m building a new blade for my self ... and i have some personal favorites chosen and the core is already set but still i want to ask what is the best what i might forgotten.
For example my coach says it is poplar and birch wood , according which i`m creating a blade for him .
But to be honest i`m searching for little bit more eye catching material then this two ..
I want to the blade also looks good not so boring .
Perhaps you should let Carl et al know what you're using for the core!?

Kindest regards,

James
 
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Greetings,


Perhaps you should let Carl et al know what you're using for the core!?

Kindest regards,

James
Yes there is no secret ..
Core will be
center core will be 5mm balsa
Bh side core glued with epoxy will be Carbo layer and then top ply ....... which still i`m not decided yet.
Fh side core glue with epoxy will be Aramid carbo layer , then beech ply 0.6mm and then on to the beech ply goes something what i`m searching glued with D2 dinamic type of wood glue (it is mostly used for dynamic types of connections like rocking chair ).
If this helps ....
 
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Ok ...... so here is different approach.
Which from this wood listed below has the best spin potential .
Ash
Brown Ash
Brazilian Walnut
Boire
Silver Fir
Santos Rosewood
Koto
Indian Apple
European Cherry
Ebony
Elm
Chen Chen - Tigerwood
 
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