34th ITTF-ATTU Asian Cup 2025, Shenzhen, 2/19-23

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I used to think Ding Ning fandom was huge. But SYS fandom is even bigger. And at least to my recollection, Ding Ning fans were respectful of the opponents. SYS fans are downright toxic. I mean show WMY, the actual winner, some respect.
ATTC 2017, huh?
 
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I don't disagree though. Some sportsmanship would be nice. Also good to not embarrass the player you are supposedly fan of....
Yeah, I bet even SYS is embarrassed by it. She clearly got beat to a pulp but the fans won't stop chanting "SYS, you're the best!" :ROFLMAO: If I were WMY I'd probably feel kinda bad for SYS for how embarrassing it must be for her, and give me more motivation to beat her again just to spite those childish fans.
 
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I don't know if there is any other country in the world where the fans would show such disrespect for the winner. WMY must have felt terrible when she got the medal and people chanted her friend's name.
very low for Chinese table tennis
LGL needs to form a task force and sort out this mess.
 
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I used to think Ding Ning fandom was huge. But SYS fandom is even bigger. And at least to my recollection, Ding Ning fans were respectful of the opponents. SYS fans are downright toxic. I mean show WMY, the actual winner, some respect.
if Ding Ning was around today, the fans will be toxic too.

it isn't a matter about DN fans vs SYS fans, but rather fans of yester years vs fans of now.
Now, the fans are toxic, full stop.

The love for the sport is great, but the toxic will hurt the sports for sure.
 
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Yeah, the fanboys and fangirls have been extra annoying AF in recent years and I know pro players who find them just as annoying as the fans do. But I don't really see how it's going to hurt the sport - insane toxic fans exist in all other major sports and sport leagues and apart from creating some isolated drama those sports haven't been affected.
 
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The World Cup, WTTC and ATTC are happening this year, right?
I believe he'd break the 7th egg this year.
这下只能退守三大赛防线了 (Now retreating to the 3 majors defense line)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9519781143
清雨微风 从九大赛0冠退到王八0
今天过后叫不了王八0了
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(From 0 titles in 9 major tournaments to Wang 8 eggs [bastard/son of a bitch]
After today, can no longer be called Wang 8 eggs)

Xm 没事,每个进度吧友都会为他想名字的。现在是王头七
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(No problem. For every progress Tieba users will come up with a name for him. Now it's Wang head 7 [head 7 = on the 7th day after death, some rituals are to be performed])
 
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这下只能退守三大赛防线了 (Now retreating to the 3 majors defense line)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9519781143
清雨微风 从九大赛0冠退到王八0
今天过后叫不了王八0了
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(From 0 titles in 9 major tournaments to Wang 8 eggs [bastard/son of a bitch]
After today, can no longer be called Wang 8 eggs)

Xm 没事,每个进度吧友都会为他想名字的。现在是王头七
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(No problem. For every progress Tieba users will come up with a name for him. Now it's Wang head 7 [head 7 = on the 7th day after death, some rituals are to be performed])
Ah I see, so he's won two of the 9 majors.
The other being the World Tour Grand Finals right?
So the 9 majors are : Chinese Table Tennis Championships, China National Games, World Tour finals, Asian Cup, ATTC, World Cup, WTTC, Olympics. I'm missing one.
 
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I used to think Ding Ning fandom was huge. But SYS fandom is even bigger. And at least to my recollection, Ding Ning fans were respectful of the opponents. SYS fans are downright toxic. I mean show WMY, the actual winner, some respect.
I think it is bit more complicated. Usually, the players who are on top have the most fans. But it is not that simple, check out what happened to Cheng Meng during Olympics. The Chinese have developed guides who control doping. It is similar at football stadiums, where the guide begins and then the fans at the stadium continue. Sometimes I think there is no guide for instance match Lin Shidong against Liang, more supporters were cheering for Liang but that was not that obvious. Chinese have two big stars WCQ and SYS, China invested a lot make them very popular in China, they are presented on most posters not even for table tennis events, but also some ads.
 
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I think it is bit more complicated. Usually, the players who are on top have the most fans. But it is not that simple, check out what happened to Cheng Meng during Olympics. The Chinese have developed guides who control doping. It is similar at football stadiums, where the guide begins and then the fans at the stadium continue. Sometimes I think there is no guide for instance match Lin Shidong against Liang, more supporters were cheering for Liang but that was not that obvious. Chinese have two big stars WCQ and SYS, China invested a lot make them very popular in China, they are presented on most posters not even for table tennis events, but also some ads.
They were cheering for Liang because they felt he was easier for their idol WCQ to beat than Lin Shidong. And it eas very obvious to me.
 
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I don't know if there is any other country in the world where the fans would show such disrespect for the winner. WMY must have felt terrible when she got the medal and people chanted her friend's name.
I think Chinese stars know what to expect and have gotten used to the assymetry in fan support at this point. There's always gonna be a disparity in fan support. Bothering about it is tantamount to self sabotage. Not saying it can't intimidate them, and it does once in a while, but WMY looked utterly unperturbed in that match-up, just gliding around, hitting her spots and winning points.
 
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very low for Chinese table tennis
LGL needs to form a task force and sort out this mess.
Ah, so you're insinuating that some strong arm is needed.
I remember you mentioned that CTTA banned some fans recently, and I think you were kinda extolling the fan's spirit and rebellion in the face of authority. And I remember I asked you when the ban was promulgated, and what were the reasons behind it, I even asked for a link. Cos I knew a ban couldn't come out of nowhere
So it appears that a ban or something sanction/regulation, if it exists, was not a badly thought out proposition, and they do need some tough love after all.
 
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I used to think Ding Ning fandom was huge. But SYS fandom is even bigger. And at least to my recollection, Ding Ning fans were respectful of the opponents. SYS fans are downright toxic. I mean show WMY, the actual winner, some respect.
Also kinda blame the guy that did the interview. Why would you ask her what she wants to tell her fans? Um, hello, what fans in that SYS cult?
 
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Yeah, the fanboys and fangirls have been extra annoying AF in recent years and I know pro players who find them just as annoying as the fans do. But I don't really see how it's going to hurt the sport - insane toxic fans exist in all other major sports and sport leagues and apart from creating some isolated drama those sports haven't been affected.
I never ended up writing anything about last year's Champions in Frankfurt, but there was this super obnoxious guy that kept cheering for Miwa against WYD. I think he might have been from Australia (definitely English native speaker), he didn't have a seat, was basically the furthest away you could be watching the match, most likely drunk and he was so loud and cheered in such a way (singing bits for instance) that it even bothered Miwa to the point that she got fed up, turned around and looked at him. I thought for sure they would kick him out, but they didn't and he left after her match I assumed.
 
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I honestly think it's fine for SYS fans to cheer "SYS, you are the best" even if Wang Manyu is the one who won it. A bit more drama and toxicity in the sport are always good, lol. People love football because of the drama. Floyd Jr is big because of the drama, same goes for McGregor who creates drama wherever he goes. ZJK is popular not only for his skill but also for his drama, lol. Ma Long? a goody two shoes, he's less popular than bad boi Jike.
 
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A bit more drama and toxicity in the sport are always good, lol. People love football because of the drama. Floyd Jr is big because of the drama, same goes for McGregor who creates drama wherever he goes. ZJK is popular not only for his skill but also for his drama, lol. Ma Long? a goody two shoes, he's less popular than bad boi Jike.
You are right, except SYS fans are not a bit toxic, nor do much people love the sport because of them. I don't think ZJK, DN, ML combined had as much toxic fans corrupting table tennis so they are definitely not "always good" for the sport

Apart from that, they are also very delusional. Not only do they think SYS lost on purpose to CM to "save" her country, but they're also the same people who blames SYS's opponents for trying to beat her. :ROFLMAO:
 
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Manyu probably still feels happy. Pretty sure she'd rather be Asian Cup champion with a few fans, than first loser but all the fans.
No doubt she had fun extracting amusement from it.

王曼昱阴阳沙尘暴 (Wang Manyu teases Sandstorm [莎/Sha and 沙/sand are homonyms, and 沙尘 happens to also mean arrogance in Cantonese])
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fefe(暴跳版) 王曼昱牛,直接喊沙尘暴保护好嗓子
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(WMY is awesome, directly telling Sandstorm to take care of their voices)

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(And I thought I misheard it)
fefe(暴跳版): 我听到的时候也好震惊,这么敢说,也是厉害了,以后沙尘暴就更会网暴她了
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(I was shocked as well when I heard it. It's amazing she was brave enough to say that. Sandstorm will cyberbully her even more in the future)
枸杞快跑: 回复 fefe(暴跳版) :不说,网暴也没停过
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(Even if she didn't, the cyberbullying had never stopped)

历练成长 哪里看的。我看的央视没有
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(Where did you watch it? I watched CCTV and nothing)
fefe(暴跳版): 咪咕,沙尘暴一直吼,采访的时候王曼昱就说观众要保护好嗓子
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(Migu. Sandstorm kept roaring. During the interview, WMY said the audience had to take care of their voices)
同博士(万人对抗版): 央视没有播采访的
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(CCTV didn't air the post-match interview)

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(Pretty nice. Someone has got to treat the Sand[storm])
 
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Ah, so you're insinuating that some strong arm is needed.
I remember you mentioned that CTTA banned some fans recently, and I think you were kinda extolling the fan's spirit and rebellion in the face of authority. And I remember I asked you when the ban was promulgated, and what were the reasons behind it, I even asked for a link. Cos I knew a ban couldn't come out of nowhere
So it appears that a ban or something sanction/regulation, if it exists, was not a badly thought out proposition, and they do need some tough love after all.
go search for it
 
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I never ended up writing anything about last year's Champions in Frankfurt, but there was this super obnoxious guy that kept cheering for Miwa against WYD. I think he might have been from Australia (definitely English native speaker), he didn't have a seat, was basically the furthest away you could be watching the match, most likely drunk and he was so loud and cheered in such a way (singing bits for instance) that it even bothered Miwa to the point that she got fed up, turned around and looked at him. I thought for sure they would kick him out, but they didn't and he left after her match I assumed.
probably intoxicated toxic
versus sober toxic
 
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