Hybrid Rubbers

[ander999]

Hi all. Would like a quick insight from those of you who use hybrid rubbers.

TLDR: I've played with Tenergy 05 / Dignics 05 and other ESN rubbers all of my table tennis career (about 15 years now) and would like to transition to hybrid rubbers. Everyone at my level uses them and I feel like I am the only one that isn't. Plus it poses them an advantage in the short game. That being said, I'd really appreciate some pointers to which one might be the best choice for me. Also please, no hurricane (or rubbers like hurricane) suggestions. Some rubbers I am looking into:

K3 Hybrid / MK Hybrid (Great reviews but durability is terrible, in some cases I hear it dies in 2 weeks?)
Donic Bluestar A1 (Tbh Idk if this is even hybrid, got mixed answers)
Donic Bluegrip C2 (Does this need boosting? I have never boosted before)
Xiom J&H C55 (Also interested in C52.5 and Omega 8 China)
D09C (Dont want to invest into this unless I know for sure I'll like it, will try from members of my club first)

I play with a lot of spin and mostly loop on both sides, but like to power drive on forehand a lot. EDIT: My blade is Timo Boll ALC

 

[Airoc]

One you didn´t mention: andro NUZN plays great without boosting AND lasts as long as a regular Tensor rubber.

It is only slightly sticky and plays closer to a normal Tensor rubber than any other made in Germany hybrid, which is why some will tell you it´s not a hybrid - but andro product management disagrees with them ;-)

As for the others, I can only confirm from friends´ experience that K3 looks wasted very soon and dies soon after.

 

[TensorBackhand]

Hi all. Would like a quick insight from those of you who use hybrid rubbers.

TLDR: I've played with Tenergy 05 / Dignics 05 and other ESN rubbers all of my table tennis career (about 15 years now) and would like to transition to hybrid rubbers. Everyone at my level uses them and I feel like I am the only one that isn't. Plus it poses them an advantage in the short game. That being said, I'd really appreciate some pointers to which one might be the best choice for me. Also please, no hurricane (or rubbers like hurricane) suggestions. Some rubbers I am looking into:

K3 Hybrid / MK Hybrid (Great reviews but durability is terrible, in some cases I hear it dies in 2 weeks?)
Donic Bluestar A1 (Tbh Idk if this is even hybrid, got mixed answers)
Donic Bluegrip C2 (Does this need boosting? I have never boosted before)
Xiom J&H C55 (Also interested in C52.5 and Omega 8 China)
D09C (Dont want to invest into this unless I know for sure I'll like it, will try from members of my club first)

I play with a lot of spin and mostly loop on both sides, but like to power drive on forehand a lot. EDIT: My blade is Timo Boll ALC

Honestly all these rubbers are extremely similar. Not much to pick between them.

Dragon grip and joola zgr and zgx are great too.

But why not go with Omega 8 china since it is newest?

 

[ander999]

Honestly all these rubbers are extremely similar. Not much to pick between them.

Dragon grip and joola zgr and zgx are great too.

But why not go with Omega 8 china since it is newest?

Not enough info / reviews on that one. ZGR looks like it is 57.5 degrees, probably WAY to hard for me. Remember, I use around 47- 48 degree rubbers. Dragon grip looks like it is 55, might need boosting?

 

[RefereeNumber2]

Out of the rubbers you listed, the Donic Bluestar A1 is closer to the classic ESN tensor style of rubber than the others. It’s definitely a hybrid but it’s softer/bouncier and less “sticky” feeling. It’s very pleasant to use and I think it would be pretty easy to adapt.

I also think it’s a bit more durable than K3. One possible disadvantage is weight — it’s heavier than the other ESN hybrids and 09c.

 

[NetProphet]

Hi all. Would like a quick insight from those of you who use hybrid rubbers.

TLDR: I've played with Tenergy 05 / Dignics 05 and other ESN rubbers all of my table tennis career (about 15 years now) and would like to transition to hybrid rubbers. Everyone at my level uses them and I feel like I am the only one that isn't. Plus it poses them an advantage in the short game. That being said, I'd really appreciate some pointers to which one might be the best choice for me. Also please, no hurricane (or rubbers like hurricane) suggestions. Some rubbers I am looking into:

K3 Hybrid / MK Hybrid (Great reviews but durability is terrible, in some cases I hear it dies in 2 weeks?)
Donic Bluestar A1 (Tbh Idk if this is even hybrid, got mixed answers)
Donic Bluegrip C2 (Does this need boosting? I have never boosted before)
Xiom J&H C55 (Also interested in C52.5 and Omega 8 China)
D09C (Dont want to invest into this unless I know for sure I'll like it, will try from members of my club first)

I play with a lot of spin and mostly loop on both sides, but like to power drive on forehand a lot. EDIT: My blade is Timo Boll ALC

Short game, durability, service, spin, arc and gears is why you should get 09c.
Maybe the arc isn't a good thing for how you play but I think it pairs very well with your blade.

Rakza Z is another maybe...

 

[Topspinslinger]

Playing d09c now for a season, besides the high arc sometimes I can't find a better hybrid.
Durable, semi sticky at all times, fast without boosting and very spinny.

Rakza z is another, my partner is using it and when I tried his setup it felt crazy spinny. It came off easier then mine.

 

[Robin0910]

If you switch between looping and power driving/looping then I can totally recommend Victas V15 Sticky. That’s what I currently use on the backhand and I love it.
The throw angle is quite low for a hybrid though but I think that’s what makes it unique.

 

[TensorBackhand]

Not enough info / reviews on that one. ZGR looks like it is 57.5 degrees, probably WAY to hard for me. Remember, I use around 47- 48 degree rubbers. Dragon grip looks like it is 55, might need boosting?

If you want a softer hybrid, why not try Andro C48?

 

[Ghostzen]

K3 or K3 Pro are excellent rubbers but like you mentioned can be limited in there life. I wouldn't say 2 weeks unless you are hitting the table time rather hard.
C55 IS Also good tbh.
Depends a little on your life of rubber at the moment. If you are getting 4-6 months there will be a change in lifespan with a hybrid.
Timo blade is a good blade and fits well with most.
What rubber are you using at the moment?
Also are you playing pretty seriously or more hitting alot.

Cheers

 

[SFF_lib]

D09C lasts a long time. You also get the consistency whereas other rubbers like K3 and C55 loses some grip after 2 months.

I would buy D09C as it will save you money in the longer term.

 

[ander999]

K3 or K3 Pro are excellent rubbers but like you mentioned can be limited in there life. I wouldn't say 2 weeks unless you are hitting the table time rather hard.
C55 IS Also good tbh.
Depends a little on your life of rubber at the moment. If you are getting 4-6 months there will be a change in lifespan with a hybrid.
Timo blade is a good blade and fits well with most.
What rubber are you using at the moment?
Also are you playing pretty seriously or more hitting alot.

Cheers

Gewo Nexxus EL 48 SuperSelect both sides. My USATT is 2350

 

[ander999]

Update: Guys... I folded . I tried 09c today, much much better at serve receive and counter topspins. Coming from a regular tensor though... I struggled to generate much power as that rubber did most of the work for me, but that is something I can adjust to though.

 

[Ghostzen]

Nice one 👍 , tried it, liked it, quest completed.

 

[Lazer]

Update: Guys... I folded . I tried 09c today, much much better at serve receive and counter topspins. Coming from a regular tensor though... I struggled to generate much power as that rubber did most of the work for me, but that is something I can adjust to though.

A good excercise for your wallet too…

Cheers
L-zr

 

[ander999]

A good excercise for your wallet too…

Cheers
L-zr

I consider it payed off after giving 1 lesson

 

[Lazer]

I consider it payed off after giving 1 lesson

Couldn’t afford you then…

Cheers
L-zr

 

[Yurifi]

Hi all. Would like a quick insight from those of you who use hybrid rubbers.

TLDR: I've played with Tenergy 05 / Dignics 05 and other ESN rubbers all of my table tennis career (about 15 years now) and would like to transition to hybrid rubbers. Everyone at my level uses them and I feel like I am the only one that isn't. Plus it poses them an advantage in the short game. That being said, I'd really appreciate some pointers to which one might be the best choice for me. Also please, no hurricane (or rubbers like hurricane) suggestions. Some rubbers I am looking into:

K3 Hybrid / MK Hybrid (Great reviews but durability is terrible, in some cases I hear it dies in 2 weeks?)
Donic Bluestar A1 (Tbh Idk if this is even hybrid, got mixed answers)
Donic Bluegrip C2 (Does this need boosting? I have never boosted before)
Xiom J&H C55 (Also interested in C52.5 and Omega 8 China)
D09C (Dont want to invest into this unless I know for sure I'll like it, will try from members of my club first)

I play with a lot of spin and mostly loop on both sides, but like to power drive on forehand a lot. EDIT: My blade is Timo Boll ALC

I played with Bluegrip C2 and Xiom JH C55, with latter being the best rubber I have played with in recent time ... Bluegrip C2 is also very nice, main difference between the two being C55 plays a lot softer than declared 55 and C2 as declared 55 if not a bit harder. C55 also has more kick, or, better like this - when you are close to the table, it gives you nice touch, great control, not too much power. but as you go further back, the catapult gets more pronounced. C2 is much more linear, with more power at the table, but not uncontrollable. but lesser pronounced catapult.
I am looking at the Donic Bluestar A1 I have here and am very tempted to put it onto the blade today for practice, now that the competing part of the season is over and some testing could be done ...

 

[ander999]

Small update for you guys:

I ended up not enjoying 09C. I am too used to springy rubbers doing most of the work for me, so I have since swapped back. Sorry fellas <3

 

[TensorBackhand]

Small update for you guys:

I ended up not enjoying 09C. I am too used to springy rubbers doing most of the work for me, so I have since swapped back. Sorry fellas <3

you should boost the d09c