WTT Champions Chongqing 2025 - 11-16 Mar 2025

[NoSpin]

This is true, but irrelevant to the actual battle. The athlete's mindset is to play for victory on that day. Truls will do whatever he can to throw off the rhythm of WCQ. Truls is smart and WCQ even when on form can lose rhythm against things that throw off his timing. My money is on WCQ winning, but Truls is a good enough player that he is not without a chance especially because his style allows him to continue throwing new things at you especially if WCQ is not hiding his serve.

Moregard will play seriously until he loses 2 games. After that he will start make faces and swing his racket like a cranky baby.

 

[pongfugrasshopper]

Match is still going on as I type this, but really impressed with how Odo has been able to pressure SYS.

 

[Dr Evil]

Given their ages and career trajectories, Odo (20) and Miwa (16) are looking very dangerous for the LA Olympics.

 

[Metaxa]

A teenager who had his dreams crushed at the national championships cried. Yes, that is definitely psychopathic behavior.

Where are your threads about Anders Lind, Truls, etc.? But you specifically make threads about Harimoto and the Lebruns... just say that you are jealous that kids are achieving more than you ever have or will.

True, but you can write a lot of things over many player. Why you didn’t write anything about Ruwen Filus. He was not even sanctioned for the same racket-throwing last year, and he is 37.

 

[Metaxa]

Where are your threads about Anders Lind, Truls, etc.? But you specifically make threads about Harimoto and the Lebruns... just say that you are jealous that kids are achieving more than you ever have or will.

 

[Nakira]

At the French finals (don't remember the year) he was beaten by Alexis. Alexis was with his feet on the table and Felix was crying like a baby.

He was 17, it is still a very young age.
I follow local kids tournaments (in France), and usually they stop crying (too much) once they realize they cannot be "the best".
Obviously something that we cannot apply to the Lebruns, especially in France.

WCQ threw his raquet once and was banned from CNTT for about two months.

So it's not only the Lebruns. You can complain to the FFTT.

Still, I agree it's not a proper behavior, and not a good example. I'm not going to re-watch the match with my crying angry 11yo baby boy.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Tieba users aren't convinced.

TTD users are convinced

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

True, but you can write a lot of things over many player. Why you didn’t write anything about Ruwen Filus. He was not even sanctioned for the same racket-throwing last year, and he is 37.

I guess kids look up to see these stars and think it is perfectly normal to throw rackets, to smash things around etc.
so when they are upset with something, they will do the same thing.

 

[Shine]

That's said before. He is a swing type player who can go up for a few months followed by a few months down. When he is up he is almost unplayable and when he is down he can be beaten by anyone. We already witnessed how hot he was a month before the Olympic, how terrible he was a few months starting with the Olympic. Now, he clearly is swinging back to the peak form.

A clear and confident mind is so crucial to players playing fast pace. For WCQ, like Felix, he plays very fast pace but with much higher quality than Felix. When you combine both speed and quality, it's indeed almost unplayable.

"When he is down, he can be beaten by anyone".

That's funny

The guys that beat are guys in the top 20-30

 

[banbekas]

Speaking of which, I saw that Miwa's FH rubber has purple sponge. Is it the new rubber from BTY?

 

[NoSpin]

"When he is down, he can be beaten by anyone".

That's funny

The guys that beat are guys in the top 20-30

Did you hear about 14 yo boy named Faraji? Didn't see him in top30.

 

[dingyibvs]

LSD seems to take advice pretty well. In the last timeout WH told him to be resolute in service receives, and that LYJ has been aggressive in receives, going at his middle, so if it's not comfortable to counterloop then just "bump" it back (he said 磕, which is interesting as it's not the word for block) and counter attack the next one. When game resumed, he scored directly on service receive the first point, then the 3rd point was a well placed flick by LYJ to his middle which he softly bumped back, surprising LYJ and allowing LSD to finish the point on the next shot.

 

[SFF_lib]

LSD seems to take advice pretty well. In the last timeout WH told him to be resolute in service receives, and that LYJ has been aggressive in receives, going at his middle, so if it's not comfortable to counterloop then just "bump" it back (he said 磕, which is interesting as it's not the word for block) and counter attack the next one. When game resumed, he scored directly on service receive the first point, then the 3rd point was a well placed flick by LYJ to his middle which he softly bumped back, surprising LYJ and allowing LSD to finish the point on the next shot.

LSD is far better at varying placement than LYJ.

LYJ performed well but kept hitting the same spots.

 

[NetProphet]

It's not an isolated incident. If that was the case, I would understand it as we all have bad moments.

There are numerous occasions where both brothers are behaving like crazy.
Take a look at this one, where Felix lost to Duda and threw his raquet and broke a tv screen

https://www.tiktok.com/video/7429236582718262570

After the incident he cries like he is a 2year old...
He wasn't disqualified just because he was playing in the doubles finals or semifinals with his brother.

At the French finals (don't remember the year) he was beaten by Alexis. Alexis was with his feet on the table and Felix was crying like a baby.
All players have been in their age and they weren't behaving like psycohpaths.
Have you ever seen Ma long, Lin Yun Ju, Kao Cheng Jui, Lin Shidong, FZD or any other player behaving like that, even at young age?
WCQ threw his raquet once and was banned from CNTT for about two months.

I mean come on, we can't justify everything on age. They are professional players, they are not 5 year olds any more...

Were you ever 17 and impetuous or is there no evidence that you were ever a child?
It's not psychopathic to throw a racket at an inanimate object in a fit of anger and disappointment.
Fact is people are still developing at the age of 17 and to have to develop, mature and grow when your behavior is televised and public is something you (or most of us) will never understand.
Comparing him to 5 other people you've never seen do it is a joke of a population sample btw because there are hundreds of examples of young men, and older than 17 behaving like this on a regular basis across almost all sports. That alone should tell you it's not unusual behavior and be enough to balance things v your apparent bias against him.

Federer is a classic example, he was an extreme hot-head and serial racket smasher who would likely have ended up like Nick Kyrios if he hadn't got it under control. Now he is the shining example of what can be done with mental mastery and I think everyone has forgiven him.
His personality certainly helped in that regard though as he is an absolute gentleman. But I met Felix backstage at WTT Frankfurt 2023 and he was really great with the fans after he lost to Ma Long, posing for photos and signing autographs so I think there's a lot of hope for him yet.

If he's still doing this stuff at 25 then fair to say you have a point!

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Were you ever 17 and impetuous or is there no evidence that you were ever a child?
It's not psychopathic to throw a racket at an inanimate object in a fit of anger and disappointment.
Fact is people are still developing at the age of 17 and to have to develop, mature and grow when your behavior is televised and public is something you (or most of us) will never understand.
Comparing him to 5 other people you've never seen do it is a joke of a population sample btw because there are hundreds of examples of young men, and older than 17 behaving like this on a regular basis across almost all sports. That alone should tell you it's not unusual behavior and be enough to balance things v your apparent bias against him.

Federer is a classic example, he was an extreme hot-head and serial racket smasher who would likely have ended up like Nick Kyrios if he hadn't got it under control. Now he is the shining example of what can be done with mental mastery and I think everyone has forgiven him.
His personality certainly helped in that regard though as he is an absolute gentleman. But I met Felix backstage at WTT Frankfurt 2023 and he was really great with the fans after he lost to Ma Long, posing for photos and signing autographs so I think there's a lot of hope for him yet.

If he's still doing this stuff at 25 then fair to say you have a point!

emotions is a difficult subject for any coach.
under and over is both not good. you want the player to be able to have emotion, and to be pumped up and then calm again for the next point.

over emotion that leads to anger, will require the player to balance again and it can be difficult to manage.
of course some players can be on the over emotion zone and play even better. Some play worse.
overall, over emotion is a task the Lebrun camp needs to manage.

From opponent side, would you want to trigger the over emotion of your opponent, knowing that they have such conditions? maybe yes, since there are quite consistent things that upset Alexis and just maybe, one day, the pressure of the over emotion is just too much that another red card offense could occur.

I'm not sure about tennis - do you get carded for braking rackets?
table tennis you not allowed to change rackets - so you in big trouble - what happens?

well, one of my players played in 2nd Bundesliga 2 weeks ago, his opponent broke his racket out of anger at the end of the 2nd game (my player was 2-0 ahead). The player then realize the problem he has caused himself and asked the umpire to change racket - of which the umpire did not allow. He wasn't carded for the offense too.
End of the day, game 3 started, the opponent was playing with a broken racket and it was a very easy win.

 

[Arkady]

He was 17, it is still a very young age.
I follow local kids tournaments (in France), and usually they stop crying (too much) once they realize they cannot be "the best".
Obviously something that we cannot apply to the Lebruns, especially in France.

What amazed me the most from this incident, was not the fact that Felix was crying like a 5year old, but the fact that Alexis was celebrating like crazy DESPITE the fact that his brother was crying his heart out!
I mean he was seeing he just didn't give a sh*t about his brother's feelings.

These two have been brought up thinking that they are the best in the world and they cannot accept defeat.
They are really good players, among the 10-20 best in the world but definitely not the best, at least not just yet.
And they have to accept that losing is part of the game, not behave like psychos each time they lose.
They are professional players for Christ's sake and they have taken part in too many WTT events to keep behaving like this.

So it's not only the Lebruns. You can complain to the FFTT.

Still, I agree it's not a proper behavior, and not a good example. I'm not going to re-watch the match with my crying angry 11yo baby boy.

I believe Molin bears great responsibility for their behavior: Coaching is not only about technique and skills of the game.
It's also about teaching values like discipline, respect, integrity, morality, balance in life, dealing with defats etc.
Clearly Molin sucks in all those aspects and FFTT has to address this issue.

 

[zeio]

☁还是没能过kk园区 (Cloud [LYJ, 雲 and 昀 are homonyms] still couldn't escape from KK Park [kk = kisskiss/LSD])
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9575672136

 

[zeio]

QF
Harimoto 0-3 WMY (-9, -10, -9)

Having observed the past few events, It seems the Kinoshita camp is lying low before the WTTC.

 

[zeio]

This is the best chance for Felix to win given LJK's left thigh.

 

[Shine]

QF
Harimoto 0-3 WMY (-9, -10, -9)

Having observed the past few events, It seems the Kinoshita camp is lying low before the WTTC.

Lying low or not playing at their best ?
Either way, LGL would not forget to put Miu Miwa Hina front and center of the posters next month.