Help , Boosted H3N cheaper+durable alternative.

[NasiRendang]

Help , i need an alternative of Boosted H3N rubber.

i practice min 26hrs - max 30hrs/ week

my current setup is
yinhe pro 05 with H3 neo H39 commercial on FH

i like spinny rubber, now i feel i lack of speed.

i decide upgrade my setup to
-FZD ALC
-D09c (FH) (H3N direct competitor)
-Hurricane 3 Neo H37 (BH)

i dont think i can replace d09c every month.

i need something similar, good speed and spin , with a good price and good durability.

cheaper price would be perfect

thankyou 🙏🏻

oot question 🤔,
(how durable fastarc g1)

 

[exotick]

Raplace 09c every month while boosting? Never boosted my 09c but that seems harsh. I wonder what will other people say 09c lasts if it’s boosted ( say twice with a single layer)?

 

[NasiRendang]

Raplace 09c every month while boosting? Never boosted my 09c but that seems harsh. I wonder what will other people say 09c lasts if it’s boosted ( say twice with a single layer)?

i never said would boost the d09c 😅,
if im not wrong, d09c were created to compete boosted h3n cmiiw

 

[NoSpin]

Why do you think 09c wont last longer? You hit that hard?

 

[NasiRendang]

Why do you think 09c wont last longer? You hit that hard?

i practice daily with a robot to, when i practice ,the robot shoot speedy ball to mimic counter topsin with a fast tempo, i afraid it will decrease the lifespan drastically

 

[Sedis]

Help , i need an alternative of Boosted H3N rubber.

i practice min 50hrs - max 92hrs/ week

How are you able to practice 92 hours a week?

 

[thisisit]

92hrs/week is 13.14hrs/day.

 

[thisisit]

How are you able to practice 92 hours a week?

probably outsourcing training hours to countries in which labour is cheaper

 

[Larshos]

.i practice min 50hrs - max 92hrs/ week

92 hours a week, huh? That is over 13 hours a day.

Great spin, good speed, decent price, great durability sounds like G1 to me.

 

[deepanmania]

Seriously, 50hrs - 92hrs/ week?
try Donic Bluegrip C2, half the price of D09c, plays similarly to D09c.
Heard Nuzn series are good in durability and cost less than D09c.

 

[NasiRendang]

How are you able to practice 92 hours a week?

sory i was write wrong number, its for 2 week /hrs, i gonna fix it 😅

-monday , wednesday , friday
•2hrs robot practice at home before practice on the club.

•3-4hrs practice on the club

-tuesday
•2hrs robot practice at home before practice on the club.
•2-3hrs practice on the club

-Thursday
•2hrs robot practice at home before practice on the club.
•1.5-2hrs practice and play

-Saturday
•2hrs robot practice at home before practice on the club.
•4hrs practice and play

-Sunday
•1hr robot practice at home before practice on the club.
•3-4hrs practice and play (club A)
•4hrs practice and play (club B)

max 30hr /week
min 26.5hr /week

but the time i spend on the club isn't mean i hit the ball all the time. i dont know exactly what hrs i use my rubber when i at the club.

the full time i use my rubber is on the training sesion with the robot,.

sory for the misunderstanding.

 

[NasiRendang]

Seriously, 50hrs - 92hrs/ week?
try Donic Bluegrip C2, half the price of D09c, plays similarly to D09c.
Heard Nuzn series are good in durability and cost less than D09c.

sry i was wrote wrong number, 😅pls see at my latest reply about the my time spend with the rubber.

aight, I'll take a look both rubber, thankyou verymuch 😁🙏🏻

 

[NasiRendang]

92 hours a week, huh? That is over 13 hours a day.

Great spin, good speed, decent price, great durability sounds like G1 to me.

yeah, i was thinking about g1, before i see this

 

[NasiRendang]

How are you able to practice 92 hours a week?

sory i wrote a wrong number,

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/help-boosted-h3n-cheaper-durable-alternative.38175/post-545903

 

[canonFH]

I found myself in a similar boat. I practice about 20 hrs per week, lots of multiball and drills, and I hit hard, so H3 boosted would only last about 2 months with the last 15 days feeling like rubbish. I use H3 38 degree commercial, 1 small layer of booster. I need to replace it every 40ish days on my practice bat. I have a different competition setup where I use H3 neo 39 with 3 layers of booster, same blade.

On BH, I use 37 H3 neo commercial without booster on practice bat. One layer of booster on match bat. There is no adjustment period in switching between the two setups. This is the cheapest way to train that I have figured out.

I have tried a lot of alternatives. ESN ones either don't feel as good or don't last long, In my country, 3 x H3 is the same price as 1 Dignics so no point.

I have tried rubbers from Yinhe, Sanwei, Loki and 729. All of these are amateur rubbers compared to H3. I have never understood people who say commercial H3 is shit and then go on to recommend Yinhe Big Dipper.

The only other option I see is changing the playing style and going to something like Stiga Mantra Pro XH or Hammond Z2 for practice and Tenergy 05 Hard for matches.

I would not recommend buying any ESN hybrid rubbers like C55, C2, K3 etc. All these have garbage durability in my experience.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

I would just use H3 and boost

 

[Tyce]

I found myself in a similar boat. I practice about 20 hrs per week, lots of multiball and drills, and I hit hard, so H3 boosted would only last about 2 months with the last 15 days feeling like rubbish. I use H3 38 degree commercial, 1 small layer of booster. I need to replace it every 40ish days on my practice bat. I have a different competition setup where I use H3 neo 39 with 3 layers of booster, same blade.

On BH, I use 37 H3 neo commercial without booster on practice bat. One layer of booster on match bat. There is no adjustment period in switching between the two setups. This is the cheapest way to train that I have figured out.

I have tried a lot of alternatives. ESN ones either don't feel as good or don't last long, In my country, 3 x H3 is the same price as 1 Dignics so no point.

I have tried rubbers from Yinhe, Sanwei, Loki and 729. All of these are amateur rubbers compared to H3. I have never understood people who say commercial H3 is shit and then go on to recommend Yinhe Big Dipper.

So true! The amount of so called budget alternatives is ridiculous.
If you want budget hurricane, get commercial. It's really not as good but you will get a very familiar experience for your training bat.
If you want even more of a budget version, try pf4. Anything else will just not be anywhere close in characteristics. Even pf4 is quite a stretch.

If you boost and use a lot, you can use seamoon and get through a bottle easily before it goes bad and stops working.

 

[Larshos]

yeah, i was thinking about g1, before i see this

G1 is considered to be one of the most durable, high performing ESN rubbers there is. And do note that:
1. People take care of their rubbers differently
2. Visible signs of wear on the top sheet is normal and does not automatically mean that the rubber is worn out. Especially on non-sticky ESN rubbers like G1

 

[NasiRendang]

I found myself in a similar boat. I practice about 20 hrs per week, lots of multiball and drills, and I hit hard, so H3 boosted would only last about 2 months with the last 15 days feeling like rubbish. I use H3 38 degree commercial, 1 small layer of booster. I need to replace it every 40ish days on my practice bat. I have a different competition setup where I use H3 neo 39 with 3 layers of booster, same blade.

On BH, I use 37 H3 neo commercial without booster on practice bat. One layer of booster on match bat. There is no adjustment period in switching between the two setups. This is the cheapest way to train that I have figured out.

I have tried a lot of alternatives. ESN ones either don't feel as good or don't last long, In my country, 3 x H3 is the same price as 1 Dignics so no point.

I have tried rubbers from Yinhe, Sanwei, Loki and 729. All of these are amateur rubbers compared to H3. I have never understood people who say commercial H3 is shit and then go on to recommend Yinhe Big Dipper.

The only other option I see is changing the playing style and going to something like Stiga Mantra Pro XH or Hammond Z2 for practice and Tenergy 05 Hard for matches.

I would not recommend buying any ESN hybrid rubbers like C55, C2, K3 etc. All these have garbage durability in my experience.

wow, thankyou verymuch to share your experience that consume a lot time and 💵 ,🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

btw on your competitions setup.
on the forehand u said H3 neo H39
is it commercial or provincial or national?

and on the backhand are you using a same rubber at a match?

sadly at my country, H3 Neo commercial H37 is pretty rare, the price is 1.5x H39-H40 version

i thinking about take a H3 National BS (non neo) for Fh, what do u think about it, will the cost be the same if i use neo commercial or provincial, from durabilty to cost / sheet


does national has a longer durability, and a same price at the end?

and what the difference beetween H3 Neo Prov BS and H3 National BS




thankyou🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

 

[canonFH]

wow, thankyou verymuch to share your experience that consume a lot time and 💵 ,🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

btw on your competitions setup.
on the forehand u said H3 neo H39
is it commercial or provincial or national?

and on the backhand are you using a same rubber at a match?

sadly at my country, H3 Neo commercial H37 is pretty rare, the price is 1.5x H39-H40 version

i thinking about take a H3 National BS (non neo) for Fh, what do u think about it, will the cost be the same if i use neo commercial or provincial, from durabilty to cost / sheet


does national has a longer durability, and a same price at the end?

and what the difference beetween H3 Neo Prov BS and H3 National BS




thankyou🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

On FH, it is Nittaku H3N. I use it because it is the same price as provincial version and every sheet has been the same weight for me and always feels the same. I have used more than 15 sheets.

H3 37 commercial for me is also 1.5x the price of H3 38 commercial. But because I don't boost it on BH, the sponge doesn't die and it lasts a long time as long as you take care of the topsheet.

You can also try H3 38 commercial on BH. I trained with this for about 8 months because 37 was not available back then. But it was not a pleasant experience. It was too unforgiving in matches and in training, I really had to take care of my delts before I could eventually stay relaxed enough to not put too much pressure on my shoulder.

Also, for the first 3-4 months, if my training partner also had a slow rubber on BH, I couldn't train for more than 30 minutes because my arm would get tired. There is really a big difference in h3 37 and 38 and I wouldn't recommend 38 unless you already have great technique.

On BH, fastarc G1 can also be used. I like this rubber a lot. I don't use it on FH because it doesn't feel as good as h3, but on BH, it is a great rubber.