ITTF Mixed Team World Cup 2025, Chengdu, 11/30-12/7

[zeio]

Do you know what they had on the official papers. Both umpires and I believe the match referee were checking the papers. In the end it was Tsai Yun-En/Huang Yu-Chiao that played but what if the official papers had Huang Yu-Chiao/Li Yu-Jhun.

It turns out TPE didn't realize they needed equal men and women to be fielded (minimum of 2 men and 2 women) and fielded 3 men and 4 women instead.

https://www.ittf.com/wp-content/upl...p-2025-Competition-Details-Playing-system.pdf

An equal number of male and female players must be registered on the match score
sheet for each team match. The maximum number of individuals allowed on the
bench will be decided by ITTF and LOC.

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#成都混团中国台北队闹乌龙#

成都混团世界杯中国台北VS美国，本场比赛最初双方上报的出场名单如下：

第一盘：林昀儒/郑怡静VS谢思/余曼迪
第二盘：蔡昀恩VS杰西卡·雷耶斯·莱
第三盘：林彦均VS希德·纳雷什
第四盘：黄禹乔/李昱谆VS皮亚达萨/余曼迪
第五盘：高承睿/林彦均VS梁吉善/希德·纳雷什

比赛打到第四盘时，仿佛是美国队教练高军发现台北队报的对阵有问题，因为根据规则，一支队伍的男女出场人数需要相同，而中国台北队上了3名男队员、4名女队员。于是第四盘女双，中国台北队临时换成了黄禹乔/蔡昀恩。

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#成都混团中国台北队闹乌龙#

成都混团世界杯中国台北VS美国，本场比赛最初双方上报的出场名单如下：

第一盘：林昀儒/郑怡静VS谢思/余曼迪
第二盘：蔡昀恩VS杰西卡·雷耶斯·莱
第三盘：林彦均VS希德·纳雷什
第四盘：黄禹乔/李昱谆VS皮亚达萨/余曼迪
第五盘：高承睿/林彦均VS梁吉善/希德·纳雷什

比赛打到第四盘时才发现台北队报的对阵有问题，因为根据规则，一支队伍的男女出场人数需要相同，而中国台北队上了3名男队员、4名女队员。于是第四盘女双，中国台北队临时换成了黄禹乔/蔡昀恩。最终中国台北队8比3战胜美国队

 

[FIXPOINT]

Scheduled Matches:
All times are local time.
Live streaming https://www.youtube.com/@ITTFWorld

Sun, 30th Nov
13:0 T2 Stage1 GR3 TPE - USA
17:0 T1 Stage1 GR2 IND - CRO
17:0 T2 Stage1 GR2 JPN - AUS
19:0 T1 Stage1 GR4 FRA - BRA
19:0 T2 Stage1 GR4 GER - ROU

Mon, 1st Dec
10:0 T1 Stage1 GR3 KOR - TPE
10:0 T2 Stage1 GR3 SWE - USA
12:0 T1 Stage1 GR2 AUS - CRO
12:0 T2 Stage1 GR2 JPN - IND
17:0 T1 Stage1 GR4 GER - FRA
17:0 T2 Stage1 GR4 ROU - BRA
19:0 T1 Stage1 GR1 CHN - EGY
19:0 T2 Stage1 GR1 HKG - CHI

Tue, 2nd Dec
10:0 T1 Stage1 GR4 FRA - ROU
10:0 T2 Stage1 GR4 GER - BRA
12:0 T1 Stage1 GR2 IND - AUS
12:0 T2 Stage1 GR2 JPN - CRO
17:0 T1 Stage1 GR3 TPE - SWE
17:0 T2 Stage1 GR3 KOR - USA
19:0 T1 Stage1 GR1 CHN - CHI
19:0 T2 Stage1 GR1 EGY - HKG

 

[PoppaChubby]

It turns out TPE didn't realize they needed equal men and women to be fielded (minimum of 2 men and 2 women) and fielded 3 men and 4 women instead.

Oh my... I laughed hard to that one, if anyone still understands anything to this BS ITTF XWCup please tell me.

ITTF loves to make complicated things hoping it will make TT more fun and enjoyable to watch. Who in his seat watching this tournament, not being a TT player and fan, will understand this BS ? WHO ?

Nobody. It's like the 4 games rule in the World Cup, it's a duel sport, in any duel there's no draw, it happens at very rare occasions in boxing, but in that case the belt holder/champion keeps his title, equals to a defeat for his challenger.
That's the only exception I know.

This sport has become silly.

It's as annoying as the Hopman Cup in tennis nobody cares about. Too much people are bored with such nonsense.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Oh my... I laughed hard to that one, if anyone still understands anything to this BS ITTF XWCup please tell me.

ITTF loves to make complicated things hoping it will make TT more fun and enjoyable to watch. Who in his seat watching this tournament, not being a TT player and fan, will understand this BS ? WHO ?

Nobody. It's like the 4 games rule in the World Cup, it's a duel sport, in any duel there's no draw, it happens at very rare occasions in boxing, but in that case the belt holder/champion keeps his title, equals to a defeat for his challenger.
That's the only exception I know.

This sport has become silly.

It's as annoying as the Hopman Cup in tennis nobody cares about. Too much people are bored with such nonsense.

my question when I was on the phone with them was, so didn't ITTF picked up the error
the reply was, yes, they did, so the lady came to the bench and said something is wrong.
9 sets was played until ITTF picked up the error.
These kind of things should of been handled pre-match
I guess they were hoping TPE will win before match 4.....

The USA part was funny. they nominated mens to play first, but ITTF recorded it as womens.
You got to ask the USA team what happened

The rule is either 3-3 or 4-4
XD players can only also play singles
singles players can also play doubles
each player can play max 2 matches per team event.

so you can't have only 2 players min. It is either 3-3 or 4-4
you can't have 3-4 or 4-3.

 

[JackJohnson]

my question when I was on the phone with them was, so didn't ITTF picked up the error
the reply was, yes, they did, so the lady came to the bench and said something is wrong.
9 sets was played until ITTF picked up the error.
These kind of things should of been handled pre-match
I guess they were hoping TPE will win before match 4.....

The USA part was funny. they dominated mens to play first, but ITTF recorded it as womens.
You got to ask the USA team what happened

The rule is either 3-3 or 4-4
XD players can only also play singles
singles players can also play doubles
each player can play max 2 matches per team event.

so you can't have only 2 players min. It is either 3-3 or 4-4
you can't have 3-4 or 4-3.

How do they decide if they play mens doubles or womens doubles first. I thought ITTF will decide the order depending on what players the team have selected for the matches. Isn’t there a rule where a player can’t play a match 2 times in a row?

 

[zeio]

According to the rules, the lower-ranked team gets to decide whether WD or MD is played first after the XD ended. Both teams should have the complete lineups turned in some time before the start of the match.

At first I misinterpreted the rule about equal men and women as being on the bench rather than in the lineup. The way it is written is confusing, something along the line of having equal men and women on the match score sheet, and then it is followed by another line about the number of people allowed on the bench would be determined by ITTF or something like that.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

How do they decide if they play mens doubles or womens doubles first. I thought ITTF will decide the order depending on what players the team have selected for the matches. Isn’t there a rule where a player can’t play a match 2 times in a row?

After match 1, the lower ranked team need to inform if they want MD or WD first.
USA wanted MD but ittf got the info WD.
So I think USA didnt inform of the change so stayed with the default WD first.

There is no rule about playing 2 times in a row.
The rule allows singles and doubles, so a player match 3 could play match 4 too.

 

[PoppaChubby]

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

I still remember there was one match I saw, it was 2-1 and the players left the racket on the table, and went back to coaches corner only to be told match finished.

 

[PoppaChubby]

According to the rules, the lower-ranked team gets to decide whether WD or MD is played first after the XD ended. Both teams should have the complete lineups turned in some time before the start of the match.

At first I misinterpreted the rule about equal men and women as being on the bench rather than in the lineup. The way it is written is confusing, something along the line of having equal men and women on the match score sheet, and then it is followed by another line about the number of people allowed on the bench would be determined by ITTF or something like that.

It's so confusing the ITTF officials don't have any clue themselves as Tony pointed.

 

[pongfugrasshopper]

Taiwan XD pair giving Taiwan a 3-0 lead on top seed S Korea.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Taiwan XD pair giving Taiwan a 3-0 lead on top seed S Korea.

And Taiwanese players need to help umpires with the scoring.
We got really world class stuff going on

 

[JackJohnson]

After match 1, the lower ranked team need to inform if they want MD or WD first.
USA wanted MD but ittf got the info WD.
So I think USA didnt inform of the change so stayed with the default WD first.

There is no rule about playing 2 times in a row.
The rule allows singles and doubles, so a player match 3 could play match 4 too.

Imagine if USA did have MD first on paper but ITTF recorded it as WD instead. If that would have been the case then ITTF would have change it if they made a mistake but they still went with WD first then MD so the mistake must be on the USA side and not ITTF.

What about playing XD then singles. A player can’t play both XD and singles?

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Imagine if USA did have MD first on paper but ITTF recorded it as WD instead. If that would have been the case then ITTF would have change it if they made a mistake but they still went with WD first then MD so the mistake must be on the USA side and not ITTF.

I found out that the countries captain need to inform the officials after XD of changing from WD to MD, so it was likely that USA did not inform, because if they did not inform, it will go by the default WD first.
I think that was what has happened.

What about playing XD then singles. A player can’t play both XD and singles?

XD player can not play singles.
XD player can only play doubles

 

[pongfugrasshopper]

Lin Yen-Chun winning game 2 is huge for Taiwan. They are 3 game wins away from the upset.

 

[PoppaChubby]

Seriously guys... having an insomnia here near the Greenwich meridian time zone, I prefer watching a good ol' B52's concert than watching this BS.

Have fun !

 

[Janard]

"中国台北，加油！"
“印度队，加油”

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Lin Yen-Chun winning game 2 is huge for Taiwan. They are 3 game wins away from the upset.

Yes, winning 1 set is so important to still probably for overall team win.

We will likely not see LYJ and CIC play singles + doubles, they will probably only play XD and allow the other 3 to play the rest because this isn't an important tournament.

So XD will get the leads and the others need to try and close - which ability is there, just lack experience.
This is a good opportunity for the lower ranked players to get some game time.

 

[JackJohnson]

I found out that the countries captain need to inform the officials after XD of changing from WD to MD, so it was likely that USA did not inform, because if they did not inform, it will go by the default WD first.
I think that was what has happened.

For these team events I wish ITTF could list who the captains are for each team. I know with other team sports there is an emphasis on who the captains are but with table tennis it’s not really publicly known unless the national team has stated who the captain is e.g Ma Long when he was playing.

Could also help the ITTF/WTT grow the sport of Table Tennis and market these players better especially if we know who the captain is and if they perform really well then even better for ITTF/WTT and the sport. Maybe have one male and one female captain per team and when they play in team events have a (c) next to their name to identify the captains/leaders of the team.

 

[Takkyu_wa_inochi]

Not watching this crap