Need easier to use alternative to DHS Hurricane 3 Neo

[TTprofessional]

Hello! I have recently been using the DHS Hurricane 3 Neo provincial BS and I have found that it's relatively hard to control while looping. I have noticed that my h3n tends to make my racket heavy. I'm currently using :
BH: Butterfly Rozena
FH: DHS Hurricane 3 Neo provincial BS
Blade: Butterfly Viscaria
I'm looking for a rubber that is easy to use, preferably light, easy to control but still offers excellent speed, control and looping ability.
My options are:

Tibhar Evolution MX-D, Victas V>22 Double Extra, Butterfly Tenergy 05 and Butterfly Tenergy 19​

I'm looking for any forehand rubber suggestion. Thanks.

 

[MOJOJOJO-74]

Hello! I have recently been using the DHS Hurricane 3 Neo provincial BS and I have found that it's relatively hard to control while looping. Because I'm only 13 years old I have noticed that my h3n tends to make my racket heavy. I'm currently using :
BH: Butterfly Rozena
FH: DHS Hurricane 3 Neo provincial BS
Blade: Butterfly Viscaria
I'm looking for a rubber that is easy to use, preferably light, easy to control but still offers excellent speed, control and looping ability.
My options are:

Tibhar Evolution MX-D, Victas V>22 Double Extra, Butterfly Tenergy 05 and Butterfly Tenergy 19​

I'm looking for any forehand rubber suggestion. Thanks.

You could always try Hurricane 3 Neo 37°. I usually use it on my backhand and I have good control and get good speed when I loop. Another option is trying Rozena on your forehand to see how you like it and if you do, just slap on Rozena for forehand and keep it on your backhand.

 

[lodro]

Another option is trying Rozena on your forehand to see how you like it and if you do, just slap on Rozena for forehand and keep it on your backhand.

exactly what i was going to suggest.
I don't think the 37 neo would do the job

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

Use what your coach tells you to use. No, I am not being an arse.

Your coach should be teaching you the finer points on how to use it.

If you don't have a coach:

A) Employ one.

B) If A is not feasible, then use a tensor rubber. Makes life a whole lot easier. Nitakku Fastarc G1 is the default best tensor or Donic Acuda S1.

 

[TTprofessional]

Use what your coach tells you to use. No, I am not being an arse.

Your coach should be teaching you the finer points on how to use it.

If you don't have a coach:

A) Employ one.

B) If A is not feasible, then use a tensor rubber. Makes life a whole lot easier. Nitakku Fastarc G1 is the default best tensor or Donic Acuda S1.

My coach says that h3n is too much for me he suggested Tenergy 19 and Tibhar MX-D but he says I can experiment. Also, how would you compare Donic Acuda S1 to Tenergy 05 or even Zyre

 

[TTprofessional]

Also, I'm not sure about Nittaku G-1 because I like to to an upward loop. I heard that with G-1 you have to adjust your racket angle lower when looping.

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

Also, I'm not sure about Nittaku G-1 because I like to to an upward loop. I heard that with G-1 you have to adjust your racket angle lower when looping.

this is a common feature for high throw rubber. You need to close the angle more to guide / press the ball down or else, it overshoots long. It is just its characteristic

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

My coach says that h3n is too much for me he suggested Tenergy 19 and Tibhar MX-D but he says I can experiment. Also, how would you compare Donic Acuda S1 to Tenergy 05 or even Zyre

Never played with t19 nor mx-d so no comment.

s1 is different feel compared to t05 & zyre. S1 is ol'skool more linear, more do it yourself or make your own power type of rubber.

t05 is too overcompensating and this leads to a lot of mistake for unfamiliar hands.

z03 is mx-p on steroid. I love it somehow.

 

[NakiMaki]

My coach says that h3n is too much for me he suggested Tenergy 19 and Tibhar MX-D but he says I can experiment. Also, how would you compare Donic Acuda S1 to Tenergy 05 or even Zyre

Hmmm, suggesting another rubber and not another blade... What an interresting coach. Viscaria for a 13 year old. H3N promotes good technique for it to be used correctly. Stiff carbon blades reduce dwelltime and therefore also the time you have to compress the rubbers sponge. All players with fast carbon blades need good acceleration when contacting ball.

No video or anything about how well you play makes it hard to tell what would be good for you.

Most players at your age and (probably level) would benefit from a slower blade and softer rubbers. Rozena for both sides on an allwood offensive blade stige clipper or Korbel would probably be fine, it just doesn't feel very "premium". If you prefer the stickiness glayzer is an okay rubber from butterfly. If you prefer chinese friendship ive heard are ok.

 

[latej]

Hmmm, suggesting another rubber and not another blade... What an interresting coach. Viscaria for a 13 year old. H3N promotes good technique for it to be used correctly. Stiff carbon blades reduce dwelltime and therefore also the time you have to compress the rubbers sponge. All players with fast carbon blades need good acceleration when contacting ball.

Viscaria is not really an example of stiff blade. And also, we don't know the weight, an 85g blade vs 95g blade is basically like a different model, there is too much difference, can't really compare. So the couch may know what he is doing. I could imagine growing a kid with light and progressively heavier and heavier blade (I mean same model). Cheers.

 

[NakiMaki]

Viscaria is not really an example of stiff blade. And also, we don't know the weight, an 85g blade vs 95g blade is basically like a different model, there is too much difference, can't really compare. So the couch may know what he is doing. I could imagine growing a kid with light and progressively heavier and heavier blade (I mean same model). Cheers.

Viscaria is a stiff blade . Most likely it isn't the coach that told him to buy it. Could be a gift or just seen some reviews and bought.

 

[sebi]

Viscaria is definitely stiff.
If you want to stick your Viscaria i would try Rozena on forehand its a great rubber. It´s fast, has good grip and light. It arcs when you want to loop downspin and has good speed when you hit trough. If you want something grippier and want to stay with Butterfly Glayzer is also a good choice, bit more arc, but less catapult. If you don´t have very good technique stay away from Tenergy 05 and Zyre.

 

[TTprofessional]

Viscaria is a stiff blade . Most likely it isn't the coach that told him to buy it. Could be a gift or just seen some reviews and bought.

My coach is a huge fan of the Viscaria.

Hmmm, suggesting another rubber and not another blade... What an interresting coach. Viscaria for a 13 year old. H3N promotes good technique for it to be used correctly. Stiff carbon blades reduce dwelltime and therefore also the time you have to compress the rubbers sponge. All players with fast carbon blades need good acceleration when contacting ball.

No video or anything about how well you play makes it hard to tell what would be good for you.

Most players at your age and (probably level) would benefit from a slower blade and softer rubbers. Rozena for both sides on an allwood offensive blade stige clipper or Korbel would probably be fine, it just doesn't feel very "premium". If you prefer the stickiness glayzer is an okay rubber from butterfly. If you prefer chinese friendship ive heard are ok.

I can't make a video but my loops are a solid 10/10 on consistency with my robot.

 

[TTprofessional]

Viscaria is definitely stiff.
If you want to stick your Viscaria i would try Rozena on forehand its a great rubber. It´s fast, has good grip and light. It arcs when you want to loop downspin and has good speed when you hit trough. If you want something grippier and want to stay with Butterfly Glaycer is also a good choice, bit more arc, but less catapult. If you don´t have very good technique stay away from Tenergy 05 and Zyre.

Not sure what Butterfly Glaycer is though.

 

[NakiMaki]

My coach is a huge fan of the Viscaria.

I can't make a video but my loops are a solid 10/10 on consistency with my robot.

If you are a beginner / intermediate then viscaria is only stunting development. Blade is too fast. Fast doesn't mean that the ball will go out of the table too much it means that strokes when you aren't in the perfect position will be mistakes easier.

I would say up until maybe 2000-2200 ttr a viscaria type blade is not necessary

 

[NakiMaki]

Not sure what Butterfly Glaycer is though.

Similar to dignics but softer sponge. Easier to activate. Better for developing players than dignics.

 

[Tyce]

Viscaria isn't stiff. It's hard.

 

[TTprofessional]

He probably meant glayzer not glacer

 

[TTprofessional]

What do you think about this Blade? I was thinking of pairing it with tornado v5 or mercury II. It's structure is limba ayous ayous ayous limba

 

[NakiMaki]

What do you think about this Blade? I was thinking of pairing it with tornado v5 or mercury II. It's structure is limba ayous ayous ayous limba

Sounds better than the vis