Butterfly Zyre 03

[merlin el mago]

Not at all. I get you 100%. There is a school of Zyre users you belong to. It isnt so much about amateur technique but not needing infinite dwell time to hit good shots or play in the short game. You also came with an innerforce blade with soft outer plies so you already get a lot of dwell from your blade. The way you know you are 100% ready for Zyre is not just the topspin players but when you find your club's Luka Mladenovic or Joo Se Hyuk and you are able to beat him without feeling like you need to loop kill every ball. If you do, then you are one with your De-Zyre!

Twiddling is the answer: one Zyre + one H3 boosted🤗

 

[NextLevel]

Twiddling is the answer: one Zyre + one H3 boosted🤗

Dima has gone one D09c, one Z03. I think he should just have become best friends with Luka and practiced with him rather than changing. That said I do want to see the new Zyre masters (LYJ, Harimoto and Togami) play choppers and see how they adapt.

 

[rbtitco]

If one comes from the MxP school; the Zyre03 is a natural progression. Like a chemical engineer switching to material science.

If one comes from the tacky faculty; like law student trying to switch to engineering faculty. Go play with your 09c or wait for Z09c....

I agree. If you like T05 hard and your rubber is worn out, you have to try zyre,. Do what it takes, sell your daughter, mow lawns or get a paper route. Whatever it takes.

 

[merlin el mago]

Talking about T05 Hard, I guess is a grippy/tacki no sticky rubber right?

 

[NextLevel]

Talking about T05 Hard, I guess is a grippy/tacki no sticky rubber right?

Same topsheet as Tenergy 05 so yes.

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

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@Tyce , because you asked for it….

Now f e c k, I have a tourney this weekend and I am at a dilemma which set-up to use?
a) My current meta: BTY SK7 ( Seven ply all wood ) with both side dignics 05
or
b) experimental: Darker Speed 90 ( one ply kiso-hinoki 9mm ) with both side Zyre 03 2.5mm
Which one? Which one? Which one? Maybe Monsieur Chad G. Petit can assist me.

BTW, do you guys wanna me to video my tourney?
Hit like if you want. I’ll post it in this thread and Daily Chit Chat.

 

[rbtitco]

Now f e c k, I have a tourney this weekend and I am at a dilemma which set-up to use?
a) My current meta: BTY SK7 ( Seven ply all wood ) with both side dignics 05
or
b) experimental: Darker Speed 90 ( one ply kiso-hinoki 9mm ) with both side Zyre 03 2.5mm
Which one? Which one? Which one? Maybe Monsieur Chad G. Petit can assist me.

BTW, do you guys wanna me to video my tourney?
Hit like if you want. I’ll post it in this thread and Daily Chit Chat.

9,mm of hinoli + zyre. Ur crazy man

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

9,mm of hinoli + zyre. Ur crazy man

Not as crazy as MXP max thickness on a 10.5mm One ply hinoki monster….
Been there done that.

 

[NextLevel]

9,mm of hinoli + zyre. Ur crazy man

If it was a Primorac Carbon, or Amultart would you have called him Crazy?

 

[NextLevel]

Not as crazy as MXP max thickness on a 10.5mm One ply hinoki monster….
Been there done that.

Have you tried Primorac Carbon, Gozo? What did you think of it if so?

 

[Deep74]

I have a different experience with Zyre but it I think is a nuanced one that might be tied to my technical limits. For me with Zyre, blocking perfectly flat and still is easier than with Dignics 05 and so is punching for me. I find that with Dignics 05, the block is more of a tiny counter rather than a very still block, one of the reasons I prefer 80 to 05. Now with Zyre, the problem I have and I suspect this is what Karlsson was talking about is when you have to kick block. The motion doesn't have the same feeling of topspin continuity that I felt I had with 05 or 09c. But for a flat block holding the racket still and hardly changing the angle, I do better with Zyre, it feels more to me like what I get from Dignics 80. But the ball goes out more easily when I had a vertical motion because I am not used to coming over the ball to spin my blocks with a closed angle but I suspect that will change with time

Yep D80 was so good at blocking I used it for ver a yr before switching to D05 due to the slightly better spin and ease of bh flicks/chiquitas due to the extra grip and higher throw.

I think if the club player lets me test his spare zyre on my blade it b great, I can take off my h3 prov and paste zyre, that way can compare what it feels compared to H3 but more importantly directly compare it to d05 on bh by twiddling in between drills.

I find testing anything on a different blade to mine doesn’t give a good enough comparison.

 

[IB66]

As I wrote in a earlier post, I have noticed an increase in the amount and quality of cleaning needed for Zyre 03, especially the black sheet. Sometimes the ball just drops off the bat, give a quick clean, sometimes no improvement, clean again and ‘pop’ the spin / grip is back!!
Compared to the Omega 8 China / Hybrid that I was using previously the difference is noticeable, especially as the slightly tacky top sheets usually pick up more dust, quicker.

 

[IB66]

As I wrote in a earlier post, I have noticed an increase in the amount and quality of cleaning needed for Zyre 03, especially the black sheet. Sometimes the ball just drops off the bat, give a quick clean, sometimes no improvement, clean again and ‘pop’ the spin / grip is back!!
Compared to the Omega 8 China / Hybrid that I was using previously the difference is noticeable, especially as the slightly tacky top sheets usually pick up more dust, quicker.

 

[Souther]

Asking or listening to a chinese tacky rubber user opinion about Zyre03 is like asking an Italian chef his opinion about sashimi / sushi.

I'll look at the positive side to this comment because I do know an Italian chef who's fanatical about sashimi/sushi and his knowledge with Japanese food makes for some very original and delicious dishes. And if FZD gave an opinion about Zyre, I wouldn't take it lightly either. In fact, I would think an opinion coming from the opposite side would be more interesting to hear from just to get a different perspective. For example, a chopper at my club gave me great insight into the defensive capabilities of H3.

 

[NextLevel]

Can the rating and technical experts guess this guy's rating?

 

[piligrim]

Can the rating and technical experts guess this guy's rating?

TTR around 1800 assuming they from Germany

 

[sebi]

TTR around 1800 assuming they from Germany

He is from germany and plays in germany. 1800 sounds right but in my opinion he has a wierd technique.

 

[NextLevel]

He is from germany and plays in germany. 1800 sounds right but in my opinion he has a wierd technique.

Thats part of the reason I posted it. So that technical experts like yourself can comment on what separates people like him with "a weird technique" but strong matchplay.

 

[backspacer]

He is from germany and plays in germany. 1800 sounds right but in my opinion he has a wierd technique.

1844 TTR at the moment.

 

[Matteones]

Thats part of the reason I posted it. So that technical experts like yourself can comment on what separates people like him with "a weird technique" but strong matchplay.

It's very hard to point out what makes him have a strong "matchplay" without seeing him play said match (-es).

And even if his technique is not very beautiful it seems serviceable. I remember strong top 50 players in the world with relatively bad looking technique but that was still functional (Damien Eloy, Crisan, Keinath etc.).

It is about the ability of creating spin and to be consistent, not about the aestethics of it. (This said, the best players in the world pretty much always also had a nice aestethic, which usually makes the movement more fluid and consistent).
One last point: I think a more fluid and "correct" technique also increases your personal "roof-level". But it doesn't have to look the same for everyone.