XIOM new blades, any review on Tetra, Artemis, Chrome or Indeed?

[chinacurious]

I have a Chrome XAXI but haven't had any rubber to glue on it. What I can see is that the limba plys on this blade is even thicker than AJH. To me, this must be Xiom's version of the W968.

Have you played the XAXi yet or measures the frequency?

 

[TTLOVE]

I have a Chrome XAXI but haven't had any rubber to glue on it. What I can see is that the limba plys on this blade is even thicker than AJH. To me, this must be Xiom's version of the W968.

could you post some photos of the composition? if U could put in comparison with AJH

 

[CallMeZaddy]

Got the Chrome XAXi and have been playing with it for quite a bit. It's not like a W968 at all. It's way softer and feels more like a HL5 but with a thicker handle. Generates a lot of spin when you put effort into it, but don't want to give people the misconception that feels like W968. The AJH TMXi Pro is way closer in comparison.

 

[kevin.c]

Got the Chrome XAXi and have been playing with it for quite a bit. It's not like a W968 at all. It's way softer and feels more like a HL5 but with a thicker handle. Generates a lot of spin when you put effort into it, but don't want to give people the misconception that feels like W968. The AJH TMXi Pro is way closer in comparison.

What rubber combinations did you try with the blade?

 

[CallMeZaddy]

FH D09C, BH Xiom JH C52.5

 

[vossi39]

Here are some details of my Chrome XAXi

Blade weight is 90g. 5.7mm thickness. Frequency 1280Hz.

I also had the hope that it might be a slower W968 but plays very differently. Much higher throw and at least I feel a very muted touch. The feel of the ball is less crisp and precise compared to W968. Handle is thicker and more squared compared to the DHS blade.

Too early to tell, but will most probably not replace my current setup. I used almost the same rubbers (H3NEO BS 40*, H3NEO OS 37*).

 

[doppelmoral]

Chrome has higher throw than tmxi pro, more speed. I wouldnt say the feedback of chrome is muted, can say its ''clear" but much less crisp

chrome very stable, needs proper impact to activate, long arc, spin is very very good. comfortable feeling for me to loop

secound bounce and arc less dangerous than w968. ajh tmxi pro is much closer to w968. on the other hand, chrome is easier to play, offers more free speed, plays better on medium power than tmxi pro, but is weaker on high power than tmxi pro

its a different concept than w968, but thats not necessarily a bad thing depending on what you need

 

[kevin.c]

Chrome has higher throw than tmxi pro, more speed. I wouldnt say the feedback of chrome is muted, can say its ''clear" but much less crisp

chrome very stable, needs proper impact to activate, long arc, spin is very very good. comfortable feeling for me to loop

secound bounce and arc less dangerous than w968. ajh tmxi pro is much closer to w968. on the other hand, chrome is easier to play, offers more free speed, plays better on medium power than tmxi pro, but is weaker on high power than tmxi pro

its a different concept than w968, but thats not necessarily a bad thing depending on what you need

Can i confirm which version of w968 is in comparison? The older version of w968 is softer as compared to the newer Golden slam w968 version which has a stiffer faster backhand and much crispier feeling. In my view the tmxi pro ajh is closer to the golden slam version as compared to the original w968.

 

[doppelmoral]

Can i confirm which version of w968 is in comparison? The older version of w968 is softer as compared to the newer Golden slam w968 version which has a stiffer faster backhand and much crispier feeling. In my view the tmxi pro ajh is closer to the golden slam version as compared to the original w968.

I never tried the newer golden slam version. a friend has the old w968 version and I was only able to compare ajh tmxi pro with old w968.

 

[kevin.c]

I never tried the newer golden slam version. a friend has the old w968 version and I was only able to compare ajh tmxi pro with old w968.

Thanks, with a softer feeling very curious to find out how does the backhand feel on the new chrome blade in comparison with the other inner carbon blades with excellent backhand such as ajh tmxi pro and also harimoto super alc?

 

[CallMeZaddy]

Thanks, with a softer feeling very curious to find out how does the backhand feel on the new chrome blade in comparison with the other inner carbon blades with excellent backhand such as ajh tmxi pro and also harimoto super alc?

Softer and less crisp. Seems like everyone is in agreement with that. You can feel the carbon activate in AJH TMXi pro, less so what Chrome. HSALC feels like in between.

The backhand isn’t bad, just too soft that you need a larger movement than expected. Might pair well with fast rubbers like Zyre03 or D80.

 

[doppelmoral]

Thanks, with a softer feeling very curious to find out how does the backhand feel on the new chrome blade in comparison with the other inner carbon blades with excellent backhand such as ajh tmxi pro and also harimoto super alc?

hsalc is just a totally different blade. I see it as a easy to play viscaria. kiri core so you dont get the same power as w968 structure. hsalc is high arc, normal spin but oustanding stability. and easy to hit through the blade

ajh tmxi pro has a dead backhand until you make the blade swing. once you hit into the core, its fast, crisp, low arc, very dangerous 2nd bounce

chrome (I didnt use it much) was faster than tmxi pro, less crisp, less feedback, quite soft overall but super spinny when you hit into the core though missing the dangerous second bounce. not as poisonous arc but still very high potential for speed and spin. the arc feels more predictable than tmxi pro, tmxi pro once you hit into the core throws the ball like a rocket launcher and curves like crazy.

I think chrome is slightly easier to play than tmxi pro, you get more free speed, but you still need to swing properly in order to activate the blade. also one needs to be able to handle the 160x152 headsize

 

[doppelmoral]

Softer and less crisp. Seems like everyone is in agreement with that. You can feel the carbon activate in AJH TMXi pro, less so what Chrome. HSALC feels like in between.

The backhand isn’t bad, just too soft that you need a larger movement than expected. Might pair well with fast rubbers like Zyre03 or D80.

I agree with this, it is VERY obvious when you activate the carbon in tmxi pro. much less so with the chrome in terms feedback transmitted to the hand

the high gear of chrome is still very high Id say, compared to most other blades. higher than hsalc for sure

 

[Larshos]

Do you think the Chrome will match nicely with tensors or BTY-rubbers?

 

[doppelmoral]

Do you think the Chrome will match nicely with tensors or BTY-rubbers?

yes definitely. I tried with both h3 and jekyll and hyde

 

[vvk1]

I've tried my Chrome too, with Xiom J&C C52.5 on FH, Andro Nuzn 50 on BH in a couple of practice sessions.

Sadly, like noted above by others, it does not feel like my W968 (or HL5 for that matter) despite having the same frequency. Nothing wrong with that, but it's just a somewhat different blade.

C52.5 was actually quite pleasant on FH, but Nuzn 50 on BH felt weird, every loop resulted in a very "carbony" sound, reminded me a bit of Xiom V1.

 

[cruzctrl]

Just to give a spot of info, here are the handle sizes of the Indeed couple compared to the HAL and Hayabusa series:

TableTennis11 provided me with this, and confirmed the Artemis series are the same. Hayabusa blades felt very balanced to me because of the large ST handle, and the same for HAL Flared. Not sure about this new group with small handles...

 

[Larshos]

Does anyone have an idea on whether Glayzer would fit on FH on the Chrome or not? I have a sheet, and from what I've gathered it's a rubber best suited to faster blades, more specifically like an Innerforce ALC or faster, from one test I read. I have never tried an Innerforce ALC, but my interpretation is that the Chrome will be faster(?)

Right now I have Mantra Pro M on FH, and while being good for looping and power, it is somewhat bouncy and does not give the best feedback on touch play. I like harder rubbers, so I thought maybe Glayzer would be a good fit - to keep the level of spin, not being bouncy, slightly harder feel and controllable speed. Am I onto something here?

 

[golden_son]

Does anyone have an idea on whether Glayzer would fit on FH on the Chrome or not? I have a sheet, and from what I've gathered it's a rubber best suited to faster blades, more specifically like an Innerforce ALC or faster, from one test I read. I have never tried an Innerforce ALC, but my interpretation is that the Chrome will be faster(?)

Right now I have Mantra Pro M on FH, and while being good for looping and power, it is somewhat bouncy and does not give the best feedback on touch play. I like harder rubbers, so I thought maybe Glayzer would be a good fit - to keep the level of spin, not being bouncy, slightly harder feel and controllable speed. Am I onto something here?

I think that's reasonable. I've played with both Mantra Pro M and Glayzer. I found Mantra better for punching and blocking than looping, to be honest.

I have Glayzer on two inner carbon blades right now. My Yinhe Pro 05 is similar in construction to the Chrome though with a "standard" head size. I'll admit the Glayzer feels a bit more...muted on it than my other blade (which has a spruce outer). Muted =/= slow, I think I'm just used to the extra feedback that spruce gives. But overall it's a pretty linear rubber. I found it similar to G-1 but easier to engage.

 

[Scarfed Garchomp]

Does anyone have an idea on whether Glayzer would fit on FH on the Chrome or not? I have a sheet, and from what I've gathered it's a rubber best suited to faster blades, more specifically like an Innerforce ALC or faster, from one test I read. I have never tried an Innerforce ALC, but my interpretation is that the Chrome will be faster(?)

Right now I have Mantra Pro M on FH, and while being good for looping and power, it is somewhat bouncy and does not give the best feedback on touch play. I like harder rubbers, so I thought maybe Glayzer would be a good fit - to keep the level of spin, not being bouncy, slightly harder feel and controllable speed. Am I onto something here?

I prefer Glayzer more on bh than on fh but I don't like how Glayzer plays on bh of soft blades as much, feels mushy and vague to me. Glayzer bh on blades like MJZLC or Stiga Wavy are great combos for me, punchy and responsive but still able to grab and spin well. I prefer rubbers around ESN50 or harder in general, I find Glayzer fh on any blade to be usable but a bit soft For my tastes. But if you are using Pro M fh then I think Glayzer would be a good move if you are looking for a steadier more cohesive feeling with better grip.