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Even Yet Still More Table Tennis Tips, the fifth and likely final book in my Tips series, is now on sale at Amazon for just $14.95. It’s another 150 Tips of the Week, put together in logical fashion in 148 pages. (Here’s where you can find all of my books, including the first four books in the “Tips” series, Table Tennis Tactics for Thinkers, Table Tennis Doubles for Champions, and others.) There are, appropriately, eleven chapters:

  1. Serve (10)
  2. Receive (8)
  3. Strokes (22)
  4. Footwork and Positioning (14)
  5. Tactics (30)
  6. Training and Strategic Development (28)
  7. Sports Psychology (13)
  8. Coaching (8)
  9. Tournaments (10)
  10. Doubles (5)
  11. Equipment (2)
Feel free to ask questions about the book or anything about TT here!
 
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Struggling for sales Larry?
Nope, I'm comfortably retired due to high book sales, though I still stay active coaching and writing. I simply posted it to let people know my newest book is out. (I have another one coming June 15, a humorous Seussian rhyming children’s picture book that introduces table tennis to kids. When it comes out, I'll post about that here as well, if that's okay with you.) Any reason for the insulting sarcasm, Peadar?
-Larry Hodges
 
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Nope, I'm comfortably retired due to high book sales, though I still stay active coaching and writing. I simply posted it to let people know my newest book is out. (I have another one coming June 15, a humorous Seussian rhyming children’s picture book that introduces table tennis to kids. When it comes out, I'll post about that here as well, if that's okay with you.) Any reason for the insulting sarcasm, Peadar?
-Larry Hodges
Well your only posts seem to be efforts to peddle your books so to answer your question the sarcasm is because I don't really have much respect for that.
 
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Well your only posts seem to be efforts to peddle your books so to answer your question the sarcasm is because I don't really have much respect for that.
I used to post a lot on various TT forums but I got tired of dealing with sarcastic trolls. I spend 50 years studying and teaching the sport, spend huge amounts of time writing over a thousand of coaching articles and many books, and when I let people know here that my new table tennis book is out, an anonymous person decides the appropriate response is, "Struggling for sales Larry?" And you wonder why I don't post much any more? Thanks for derailing this thread into your personal bias. Jeez.

If anyone else has any interesting questions about table tennis, feel free to ask them here.
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Well your only posts seem to be efforts to peddle your books so to answer your question the sarcasm is because I don't really have much respect for that.
Now that you've had a chance to get over your sarcasm high, did it ever occur to you that maybe, just maybe, a better response (to me or anyone else who shows up) might have been, "Hi Larry, glad to see you here! Why not join some of our discussions here?”
 
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Personally I've got no problem with coaches pushing high quality books or websites on this forum, especially if they're willing to hang around to answer some questions. On that note...

Larry, do you think table tennis is unusually momentum-heavy, or does it just feel that way because serve/receive and first-ball patterns can swing point probability so quickly? When a player loses three or four points in a row, what’s your quickest diagnostic checklist for figuring out whether the problem is tactical, technical, psychological, or just normal variance — and what are the best ways to reset before the match gets away?
 
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Well your only posts seem to be efforts to peddle your books so to answer your question the sarcasm is because I don't really have much respect for that.
Sorry if I am blunt, but this is one kind of a stupid comment.

I really appreciate someone like Larry writing books and articles about table tennis. I appreciate some information when a new item is released. I appreciate the way Larry reach out so we can communicate with each other.

Now I kindly ask you (NetProphet) not to comment on my comment. You already made your point clear.
 
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Personally I've got no problem with coaches pushing high quality books or websites on this forum, especially if they're willing to hang around to answer some questions. On that note...

Larry, do you think table tennis is unusually momentum-heavy, or does it just feel that way because serve/receive and first-ball patterns can swing point probability so quickly? When a player loses three or four points in a row, what’s your quickest diagnostic checklist for figuring out whether the problem is tactical, technical, psychological, or just normal variance — and what are the best ways to reset before the match gets away?
This is a very good question that comes up regularly for players and coaches. And sorry about the long response – once I get going I can’t stop! 😊

Momentum in table tennis is mostly a combination of confidence and tactics, as well as fitness for older or out-of-shape players. It’s also a two-way dynamic, as both players have varying degree of all three. For now, I’ll leave fitness out of the equation. There's always going to be some random streaks where a player scores a bunch in a row, but since you can't really stop that if both players are roughly equal, you should focus on how to stop an opponent from scoring a bunch in a row that's *not* just mathematical chance, while increasing your own chances of doing so.

If you and your opponent are roughly the same level, but suddenly the opponent is dominating (i.e. has the momentum), it’s likely one of two possibilities.
  • Most often, you are playing poor tactics and the opponent is taking advantage of it. This hurts both because of the poor tactics, *and* because it leave you in uncomfortable situations at the start of or during rallies, which leads to misses or weak shots. This makes you nervous or hesitant, and so you think you are losing because of that, when it is the poor tactics that leads to your being nervous or hesitant.
  • You are nervous, leading to slight hesitation. There are many reasons for this. While this is often because of poor tactics (as noted above), it could also simply be plain nervousness, perhaps because it’s a big match, first-round jitters, or (perhaps most commonly) when you realize you have a chance to win a big match and start thinking about it . . . and so the momentum changes and your opponent starts winning. This is especially true for younger players, but it can happen to anyone. If this is the problem, then you need to work on sports psychology. I’ve often pointed out that a confident player playing poor tactics usually beats a nervous player playing good tactics. If you aren’t nervous and play good tactics . . . then you have momentum!
Lack of confidence often means you are uncomfortable with what’s happening, which is a tactical issue. Fix the tactics so the rallies start and continue in a way you are more comfortable, then you gain the confidence to execute your shots at your highest level, which leads to momentum. Note that when attacking, 1% hesitation is 100% miss. When opponent is attacking, your 1% hesitation means you miss or make weak shots.

So, how to fix this? There are books on sports psychology. But there’s actually a relatively simple way to fix both problems: smart tactics. This solves #1 above. But it often solves #2 as well, since smart tactics put you in comfortable situations, which gives you confidence, and so you no longer hesitate.

If you are in a situation where your opponent is suddenly dominating, the first thing you do is figure out *why* he’s dominating. Make sure you are playing tactics that put you in comfortable situations, especially on serve, receive, and placement in opening shots and rallies. Then blank your mind out and let your training take over.

Here are three personal examples of where I lost winnable matches because my opponent gained the momentum and I failed to stop it. It illustrates all three possibilities - psychological, tactical, and physical.
  • I once led a 2400 player 20-16 match point. I was about 2250 at the time, and I couldn’t help but think about this at the end. This made me super-careful – and that led to my playing soft, and he won six straight points because of it. It wasn’t tactics, it was slight hesitation at the end that led to my playing too soft in rallies. He jumped on them, got the momentum, and won. That was a case of 1% hesitation = soft play = lost six straight points.
  • I played a match against a 2150 player where I should have been a big favorite. I was told in advance this guy would loop everything. I went into the match tactically ready for a looper. Early on I led, and so I stuck to my tactics. He started to smash winners, and gained the momentum. I’ve been kicking myself for years for not changing my tactics. By the time I realized I’d been misinformed and he was a more of a hitter, I’d pretty much lost. A simple change of tactics and I would have regained the momentum and likely won. The worst tactical match of my life.
  • In my 50 years of tournaments, I had only one comeback that was worse than that 20-16 lead on Kaichi. (I’ve come back from 10-5 or 20-15 match point nine times.) I was once up 20-10 match point in the third. I was playing all-out forehand attacking, and by the end, I was exhausted and my legs were dead. My opponent started winning points – and when I realized I could no longer move effectively to attack forehands, I got hesitant, and even when the shot was there, I was indecisive, and I lost, 23-21.
I could list a few hundred examples where I coached a player who stopped the opponent’s momentum, but I’ll stop here. 😊
-Larry Hodges
 
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Even Yet Still More Table Tennis Tips, the fifth and likely final book in my Tips series, is now on sale at Amazon for just $14.95. It’s another 150 Tips of the Week, put together in logical fashion in 148 pages. (Here’s where you can find all of my books, including the first four books in the “Tips” series, Table Tennis Tactics for Thinkers, Table Tennis Doubles for Champions, and others.) There are, appropriately, eleven chapters:

  1. Serve (10)
  2. Receive (8)
  3. Strokes (22)
  4. Footwork and Positioning (14)
  5. Tactics (30)
  6. Training and Strategic Development (28)
  7. Sports Psychology (13)
  8. Coaching (8)
  9. Tournaments (10)
  10. Doubles (5)
  11. Equipment (2)
Feel free to ask questions about the book or anything about TT here!
Hi, it seems like the links aren't working properly. It's missing a colon in URL, and it tries to fill it in with an http header:



I'm able to reach it just fine after I copy the link address but thought it would be good to point out.

Here's a correct link for anyone that's interested:
- Even Yet Still More Table Tennis Tips : https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GY89LMMZ
- Here’s where you can find all of my books : https://www.tabletenniscoaching.com/larryhodgesbooks

It could also very well be an issue on my end. I'm accessing the forum via Mobile.
 
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Hi, it seems like the links aren't working properly. It's missing a colon in URL, and it tries to fill it in with an http header:



I'm able to reach it just fine after I copy the link address but thought it would be good to point out.

Here's a correct link for anyone that's interested:
- Even Yet Still More Table Tennis Tips : https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GY89LMMZ
- Here’s where you can find all of my books : https://www.tabletenniscoaching.com/larryhodgesbooks

It could also very well be an issue on my end. I'm accessing the forum via Mobile.

That's weird - I copy and pasted the links, but somehow they got changed. FIXED! Thanks for catching that.
-Larry Hodges
 
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Sorry if I am blunt, but this is one kind of a stupid comment.

I really appreciate someone like Larry writing books and articles about table tennis. I appreciate some information when a new item is released. I appreciate the way Larry reach out so we can communicate with each other.

Now I kindly ask you (NetProphet) not to comment on my comment. You already made your point clear.
In what way is it stupid?
Because my opinion differs from yours?
Maybe you are stupid? Consider that for a while ...

I appreciate his books too, I have one of them.

My point is that someone with his obviously knowledge chooses not to participate or contribute in here until it's time to sell his books.
I think that's an unintended use of the forum (maybe I'm wrong) but I definitely think it's taking advantage, taking without giving as it were.
It's a long-standing joke in the TT community that Larry Hodges wants you to buy his book! 😂 This is obviously why.
I'd have no issues if he was a more regular contributor tbh.

But everyone is free to think what they want about that....

And, oh look, I commented anyway. Just like Larry is free to post, it seems so am I 🤷
 
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That's weird - I copy and pasted the links, but somehow they got changed. FIXED! Thanks for catching that.
-Larry Hodges
Not all symbols are actually the same. You may have been copy-pasting special symbols like : or / which are not actually the same ones as the website expects, which sometimes leads to them being deleted or changed.
 
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Even Yet Still More Table Tennis Tips, the fifth and likely final book in my Tips series, is now on sale at Amazon for just $14.95. It’s another 150 Tips of the Week, put together in logical fashion in 148 pages. (Here’s where you can find all of my books, including the first four books in the “Tips” series, Table Tennis Tactics for Thinkers, Table Tennis Doubles for Champions, and others.) There are, appropriately, eleven chapters:

  1. Serve (10)
  2. Receive (8)
  3. Strokes (22)
  4. Footwork and Positioning (14)
  5. Tactics (30)
  6. Training and Strategic Development (28)
  7. Sports Psychology (13)
  8. Coaching (8)
  9. Tournaments (10)
  10. Doubles (5)
  11. Equipment (2)
Feel free to ask questions about the book or anything about TT here!
Will it be available in Kindle?

Thank you so much for actually writing and making all your articles available on your web site! It’s very much appreciated and has helped
Me a lot in my TT journey
 
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I have yet to start the first book, somehow my patience to read has vanished since high school (I know why - mandatory book reading. Biggest reader killer before the smartphone was invented.)

Having said that, @larrytt , do you happen to cover the changes made in the past few decades and how they influence decisions in the current game? I would love to get a viewpoint that I can place in the context of other helpful things.
 
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I have yet to start the first book, somehow my patience to read has vanished since high school (I know why - mandatory book reading. Biggest reader killer before the smartphone was invented.)

Having said that, @larrytt , do you happen to cover the changes made in the past few decades and how they influence decisions in the current game? I would love to get a viewpoint that I can place in the context of other helpful things.

I'd say the four biggest changes in the sport in the last few decades, and how they influence decisions (tactical or strategic), would be:
  1. Backhand banana flip. So opponents can't loop the serve, most serves are short or half-long (so second bounce of serve is right at the edge of the table). The banana flip now dominates as the preferred receive against this to the point that it's seriously overused by many aspiring players. Much of the game now centers around using and reacting to this modern backhand flip. However, it also means the new generation of players have their serving games centered around serve and attack against the backhand flip. Their entire games can often be shut down with a short receive, since they often serve and take a small step back so as to have time to counter-attack against the banana flip. (Many have trouble against a heavy push as well as they are so used to driving just forward against topspin.) Many players reach a rather high level centering their receive around this shot, and are pretty successful - but they don't develop their short receive as well as it should be, and so they become predictable. You need both, as well as an aggressive deep push. When a server has to be ready for all three receives, they have difficulty. (When I coach top players in matches, the right mix of receive is often the most important thing for them to get right.)
  2. Strong close-to-table backhand topspins. These days every backhand is essentially a backhand loop over the table!
  3. Less variety in playing styles. If you are a coach working with a new junior player, for what reason would you teach even a slightly unorthodox style? If you are an up-and-coming player, with access to top coaches and constant online videos of top players, for what reason would you develop even a slightly unorthodox style? If one style is 1% better than another, then essentially 100% of the time the 1% better style is taught. So, while there are always exceptions, every generation it seems that a higher percentage of top players all play like clones of each other. And then, because nobody is taught to do anything different from this, the circular argument is that therefore those other styles or techniques don't work. While it's true that the basic style that most top players use now is the best way to reach a high level, there are other nearly "dead" styles or techniques that, given the chance, would probably do pretty well outside the top 20 or 50 or so in the world.
  4. Continued development against the 40mm plastic ball. The ball has less spin and slows down quicker than the old 38mm celluloid, so players can, in simple terms, better wind up and pound the ball back and forth.
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Will it be available in Kindle?

Thank you so much for actually writing and making all your articles available on your web site! It’s very much appreciated and has helped
Me a lot in my TT journey

Yikes! I sort of told myself that if just one person asked about the kindle version, I'd have it done, as I did with the previous four in the series. Since you asked . . . yes, there will be one at some point, probably in May. Thanks a bunch! :)
-Larry Hodges
 
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In what way is it stupid?
Because my opinion differs from yours?
Maybe you are stupid? Consider that for a while ...

I appreciate his books too, I have one of them.

My point is that someone with his obviously knowledge chooses not to participate or contribute in here until it's time to sell his books.
I think that's an unintended use of the forum (maybe I'm wrong) but I definitely think it's taking advantage, taking without giving as it were.
It's a long-standing joke in the TT community that Larry Hodges wants you to buy his book! 😂 This is obviously why.
I'd have no issues if he was a more regular contributor tbh.

But everyone is free to think what they want about that....

And, oh look, I commented anyway. Just like Larry is free to post, it seems so am I 🤷
Okay, since you agree that I’m “free to post,” I’ll post my response as an appropriately “Top Eleven” list.

  1. Thanks for the continued sarcasm, i.e., the made-up “It's a long-standing joke in the TT community that Larry Hodges wants you to buy his book!” Can you give us links to the many others who have posted about this as a joke? Or is it a secret thing that everyone discusses at table tennis communities around the world but never online? You just made this up. Plus, don’t you think it’s silly to make a joke that writers want people to buy their books? Why do you think they wrote the book? Think about it!
  2. I notice that you didn’t respond to my question about whether, when a new person shows up, rather than use sarcasm, it might be a better response to say, “Hi Larry, glad to see you here! Why not join some of our discussions here?” Others did that and we’ve had some good discussions already. Why not you? Instead, you post anonymous sarcasm, while I post under my own name.
  3. I note that Meryl Streep is scheduled for both the Jimmy Kimmel and Stephen Colbert shows tonight, since she has a new movie out this Friday. If you were in the audience or a co-guest on the show, would you boo her and sarcastically ask if movie attendance was down for her and complain that she only shows up on these shows to “peddle” her movies?
  4. If Ma Long wrote a book on table tennis and showed up here to let people know about it, would you also be sarcastic about his “peddling” his book? Do you think anyone on the forum would agree with you on this? (No, I’m not comparing myself to Ma Long. But the principle is the same.)
  5. If you wrote a table tennis book, and knew that a major way to let the table tennis community know about the book was to post about it on table tennis forums, would you do so, or would you keep it a secret that you wrote a table tennis book? Or would you require that all authors have to post regularly on every table tennis forum where they post about their book before they can post about it? When a person puts huge amounts of time and effort into writing a table tennis book and then announces it on a TT forum, do you realize how shallow it is to complain that he’s just “peddling his book”? (So, Ma Long has to spend huge amounts of time posting on each forum if he posts about his book or you’ll complain he’s just “peddling his book,” right?)
  6. Do you believe some people on a table tennis forum, who get much of their table tennis news from that table tennis forum, would be interested to know there’s a new table tennis book out?
  7. Since you think I’m just peddling my books (apparently for money), next time you or anyone sees me coaching at the US Open, Nationals Team Trials, or any other tournament, ask my students or their parents how much I charge to “peddle” my coaching. They’ll tell you nothing – I haven’t charged anyone for my coaching at tournaments in over a decade. I don’t need the money. I probably give away as many of my books as I sell.
  8. Heck, go to my main website, www.tabletenniscoaching.com. I’ve been blogging and doing Tips of the Week there since 2011. How much do I get paid to “peddle” my table tennis knowledge there? Nothing. See the list of ads on the left side? I could charge for them – and long ago, I did. But I lost interest in that, and stopped charging for them over a decade ago. I just pick and choose which ones to put there. (The only one I get anything from is Butterfly, who have sponsored me as a coach since long before I started the site.)
  9. You wrote, “I'd have no issues if he was a more regular contributor tbh.” So, you think I need to be a regular poster on this forum if I want to post about my TT book on this TT forum. This forum is just part of the larger table tennis community at large. Would you like to compare credentials as to who has contributed more to the table tennis community at large? Do I get brownie points for my overall contributions? If someone decides to run a big million dollar table tennis tournament and shows up here to let people know, would you sarcastically complain that he’s just “peddling his tournament”?
  10. Sometime late in June I’ll be posting about my next table tennis book, “Ping-Pong Paddles Can’t Talk!” When I post about it, will you again accuse me of just showing up to “peddle my book”? Let’s say I sell 500 copies and make $4 profit on each, so $2000, right? But I paid $4,500 for an illustrator for the book. I’ll never make a profit on the book. So, did I do it for the money, or as a contribution to the table tennis community? (The reality is I’ll likely give away more copies then I’ll sell. It’s a humorous Seussian rhyming children’s picture book that introduces table tennis to kids. It features a nervous boy and his talking paddle in their first tournament, where he meets and plays a girl who is really good, and they have an adventurous match. Along the way, kids learn about the sport, with themes on facing your fears, working toward a goal, honesty, and friendship.)
  11. I see that you post here a LOT. That’s great! However, I did so as well for decades on other TT forums, and I guarantee I’ve posted more than you have. I just got tired of dealing with the constant bickering and trolls and mostly stopped. Look what happened when I showed up here – you were the first response! When a writer finishes a book, he’s often excited and looking to discuss the topic of his book, i.e., table tennis. As I’m doing now, with others here, I’m discussing table tennis, just as we could. Instead, look what we’re discussing. What a waste of our time as you turn this thread about a new table tennis book into your personal bias against my letting people on this TT forum know about this new TT book.
-Larry Hodges
 
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Yikes! I sort of told myself that if just one person asked about the kindle version, I'd have it done, as I did with the previous four in the series. Since you asked . . . yes, there will be one at some point, probably in May. Thanks a bunch! :)
-Larry Hodges
Yeh!! I mean I have 4 of your books in kindle! This will be my 5th!!!!
 
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