DHS H3N Prov BS on Forehand and Tenergy 19 on backhand?

[imbadatlooping]

Give it to me straight doc, would the DHS H3N Prov BS (boosted) on forehand and Tenergy 19 on backhand be good on a Petr Korbel? Coming from Rakza Z on Forehand and Fastarc G1 on backhand. Just wanted to try something new. Something tackier on the forehand and finally try a butterfly rubber.

 

[MOJOJOJO-74]

If you want to try Butterfly, just go with Tenergy 05, or if you like harder rubbers, Tenergy 05 Hard. Hurricane will feel slower coming from a hybrid rubber, but you should get more spin, just know some Hurricanes can have a lot of tackiness and some can have little.

 

[Tyce]

If you want to try Butterfly, just go with Tenergy 05, or if you like harder rubbers, Tenergy 05 Hard.

Why "just go with T05"? T19 is a good rubber and it's just a little closer to G1 in terms of behaviour.
I think T19 is the better choice here between that and T05. Slightly more stable, even if there is more top speed.

Hurricane will feel slower coming from a hybrid rubber, but you should get more spin, just know some Hurricanes can have a lot of tackiness and some can have little.

Yup. Almost no free speed (catapult) especially on BS. I would recommend using OS instead for slightly more catapult at low speed and the clear feedback to help learn how to play with it.

Putting it on Korbel isn't necessarily a bad idea, but it might be quite a shock moving to H3 on this. However, that does also facilitate clear feedback: if you don't hit it right, the ball won't be doing much.

 

[imbadatlooping]

Why "just go with T05"? T19 is a good rubber and it's just a little closer to G1 in terms of behaviour.
I think T19 is the better choice here between that and T05. Slightly more stable, even if there is more top speed.

Yup. Almost no free speed (catapult) especially on BS. I would recommend using OS instead for slightly more catapult at low speed and the clear feedback to help learn how to play with it.

Putting it on Korbel isn't necessarily a bad idea, but it might be quite a shock moving to H3 on this. However, that does also facilitate clear feedback: if you don't hit it right, the ball won't be doing much.

That was my thought. I wanted to try something a little faster so T19 came to mind as a better choice than going straight to T05. How does the OS react to booster (I plan to use the haifu seamoon yellow national). That’s something I’m looking for, a forehand rubber that’s harsh. Something that denies any type of wrong stroke. Gonna have to learn the hard way.

 

[Tyce]

OS boosts absolutely fine

 

[NakiMaki]

From someone using an almost identical setup. I prefer Rozena on backhand. Also the hurricane feels great on korbel, but if your technique is not good, it can be difficult to hit through the sponge.

 

[Federal_Agent]

I used those rubbers on a Cybershape Wood for a year and can say they worked very well. it's a great setup!
I liked it so much that I now keep tenergy 19 on the backhand side of my Viscaria and FZD ALC.
Good luck, player!

 

[exotick]

Is someone using H3N on stiff and hard blades? Wouldn’t it be easier to activate the rubbers? Thinking of trying orange sponge on a SALC, anyone done that? Or maybe normal alc.. for example i liked 09c on my salc a lot more than on fzd alc.

 

[Tyce]

Comparing Fzd ALC to Innerforce Layer ALC, yes H3N activates a little easier on the Fzd but it also shoots out sooner. As a result it's more difficult to get good loop contact,
Activation on H3N feels different (and I think that's the part that makes learning to play it difficult) because there is no significant catapult effect, no sensation of pulling the ball into the rubber like stretching a rubber band, those telltale signs that you are doing something right with a tensor rubber. Boosting (at least with yellow haifu) does create a little bit of a catapult effect but also reduces dwell time in the sponge. I found the easiest sheets to play with are those where the boost is pretty much worn off and they feel like a heavily broken in rubber.
Note that doesn't make it the best performing sheet, but the easiest one to make reliable contact.

Little side note: I did a session or two with H3N 37 (soft) on FH on Korbel and it was quite easy to work with.

 

[jk1980]

the better upgrade path from Rakza Z would be RZEH and tbh in terms of tackiness there is not much difference in H3N to RZ and RZEH, because H3N are not always mega tacky and with RZ you can also get more tacky and less tacky ones if you are lucky or unlucky.

Expect your H3N BS to have a lower throw. I have just put on an H3N OS '39 and on simply spin test with my hand it seemed to have a significantly lower throw than my Battle 2 Gold, but when i actually looped at the robot it was feeling high (enough). It seems like the H3N OS has this hybrid property that the throw changes quite a lot depending on how active your stroke is.

 

[jk1980]

That’s something I’m looking for, a forehand rubber that’s harsh. Something that denies any type of wrong stroke. Gonna have to learn the hard way.

Then don't boost it, that is going to be the exact way you want it.
I had only tested the H3N 39 OS against the robot and with topspin the throw was not too low and with an ball that had enough energy coming at me it was easy to play. Today the first training matches (i directly played with the rubber and did not warm up with it) i was quite surprised that any half assed arm-only loop out of position would drop into the net, because of basically no catapult at all and a very low throw. After realizing it in the first set i got accustomed to it more and more and came back from 0-2 to win it 3-2, but really only with me grunting on every opening loop against backspin and really standing low going into the ball with at least 80% power.

 

[JoeZhendong]

I play FZD ALC with boosted H3N 39 commercial on FH and Tenergy19 on BH. I played with unboosted H3N before and could not play well enough. Finally decided I’m already so invested in the Chinese stroke so why not. And all my life I had been running away from Butterfly blades because of the high price tag even though I know they have amazing quality. My friend was in Japan so I said what the heck let’s finally get a Butterfly blade. Also because FZD retired from WTT, I needed something from my favorite player. So people are not exaggerating about boosted vs nonboosted. It really is life changing. I can’t even imagine when I’m ready to move to H3N blue sponge.

As for Tenergy19, I strongly believe it’s better on FH unless you are a very dominant BH player. The effect of holding the ball longer is nice but on the BH you have to be more careful with your paddle angle during topspin rallies. It may overshoot or into the net. Therefore, I think it’s better on FH as you can easily compensate for that holding effect. In addition, it is also the reason I think T19 is not the best on passive blocks. Short touches are very good on both FH and BH. To be honest, I was never a fan of Tenergy05 but after trying my friends Outerforce ZLC with T05, I really enjoyed it on BH. I would say if you don’t want T05 then go D05. I’m planning to change my T19 to D05 soon!