Best rubbers (only ESN/Japanese) for spinny serves

[Fruitlover]

Hi,
my biggest strength in table tennis are actually my tomahawk serves (with all kinds of spin and different lenghts) and I wonder which kind of rubbers among the fast ESN/Japanese grippy rubbers are generating most spin for my serves. The interesting variables are sponge thickness, sponge hardness, topsheet hardness. Some say that thick sponges generate more topspin and thin sponges generate more backspin, but I do not know if this it true for (tomahawk) serves, too.

Regards

 

[Yuomay]

Best rubbers for spin creation are either grippy rubbers . Think fastarc G1, rakza X, Thibar el-P. ( or softer versions of those).

Or alternatively hybrid rubbers. Rakza Z, PK50, thibar K3.

It is however more a matter of technique than a question of rubber.

 

[ThePongCommenter]

Dignics 05.

 

[sebi]

Dignics 09c.

 

[ThePongCommenter]

Dignics 09c.

I assume that when he said "ESN/Japanese grippy rubbers" he is excluding hybrids from the list. If not, this is the obvious answer.

 

[joshmak10]

Best Overall: D09c
Best Non Tacky: D05
Best Non BTY: Stiga Dragon Power 55
Best Non BTY Non Tacky: Joola Dynaryz Inferno

 

[Fruitlover]

Tacky rubbers including hybrids offer good spin, no doubt about that, my question was related to grippy rubbers only. From your answers I conclude that you think very hard rubbers offer most spin. But can you really activate such hard sponges if you serve? Would such a topspin serve land on the table?

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

coming soon: De Zyre 03

 

[Yuomay]

Tacky rubbers including hybrids offer good spin, no doubt about that, my question was related to grippy rubbers only. From your answers I conclude that you think very hard rubbers offer most spin. But can you really activate such hard sponges if you serve? Would such a topspin serve land on the table?

Harder rubbers offer more spin potential, that’s why the pro’s play 55 degrees.

You would need to be more precise with your timing and acceleration the harder the rubber. So depending on your level you could increase hardness of the rubber.

 

[kapahoo]

One of the benefits, at least for me, with harder rubbers is that short game and precision in the "small game", including serving, is easier. They are less bouncy. That also makes putting spin on serves easier.

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

Hi,
my biggest strength in table tennis are actually my tomahawk serves (with all kinds of spin and different lenghts) and I wonder which kind of rubbers among the fast ESN/Japanese grippy rubbers are generating most spin for my serves. The interesting variables are sponge thickness, sponge hardness, topsheet hardness. Some say that thick sponges generate more topspin and thin sponges generate more backspin, but I do not know if this it true for (tomahawk) serves, too.

Regards

Donic Baracuda: The rubber with the vicious spin ( 45 degree ESN hardness )

Xiom Vega Europe Dynamic Friction: High spin tensor rubber ( 37.5 degree ESN hardness )

NB: Xiom is too mushy for my taste. Bara seems to be more threatening!

 

[jk1980]

Yasaka Rakza Z is ESN and plenty of spinny

 

[merlin el mago]

It all depends the blade.

 

[Sedis]

I've had a couple of people mention they are having more trouble with my serves since I changed to Andro Nuzn, I'm not sure why, maybe its a bit less bouncy.
I think the tackiness is negligible and I can't see how it would be enough to make any noticeable difference.

 

[TT Lover]

Yasaka Rakza Z is ESN and plenty of spinny

What is the hardness degrees of Rakza Z.

Thank you sir.
Best regards,

 

[andzejgolot]

Best Overall: D09c
Best Non Tacky: D05
Best Non BTY: Stiga Dragon Power 55
Best Non BTY Non Tacky: Joola Dynaryz Inferno

Best Chinese
Hurricane 3 National
Best Non DHS
It depends of budget

 

[jk1980]

What is the hardness degrees of Rakza Z.

50° ESN scale (about 38/39° DHS)

 

[我❤️打乒乓球]

just got a new rubber 😃 excited to stick it on my Q968 backhand. But like what do you guys think of the rubber because like i feel perhaps the spin wouldn't be enough.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

just got a new rubber 😃 excited to stick it on my Q968 backhand. But like what do you guys think of the rubber because like i feel perhaps the spin wouldn't be enough.

if the spin isn't enough, I'm sure the problem isn't the rubber.

 

[Yuomay]

I hope he’s trolling