Best rubbers (only ESN/Japanese) for spinny serves

[我❤️打乒乓球]

if the spin isn't enough, I'm sure the problem isn't the rubber.

nah cuz like im into hybrid and chinese backhand bro

 

[sebi]

Still, T05 hard as a lot of spintoential. Pretty much the same as D09c

 

[ThePongCommenter]

Still, T05 hard as a lot of spintoential. Pretty much the same as D09c

No... it is definitely less spin potential than 09c

 

[Dr Evil]

For heavy spin serves, the easiest is maximum grip with minimum bounce. In my experience, max grip among non-tacky rubbers is D05 but it's quite bouncy. Minimum bounce with excellent grip is G1, though I suspect some of the new harder sponge rubbers are even more grippy than G1 and less bouncy on the relatively soft contact of serving.

 

[sebi]

No... it is definitely less spin potential than 09c

Maybe a bit, but still so much that no one should consider that this rubber has not enough spin

 

[Lando]

Nothing was better than my h3 for serves but I'm too fat to handle that rubber lol
Tenergy 19 works well but I may go to baracuda for a little less catapult

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

No... it is definitely less spin potential than 09c

but still way more potential than this 14~17 year old kid who is worried there is not enough spin.

 

[tzifos]

Victas 401 and 402 have VERY spinny serves!

 

[AchyGeorge]

Sometimes a serve with almost no spin can be more devastating than an incredibly spinny one. All of the previously mentioned rubbers can produce sufficient spin, but it is down to the skill of the server to produce sufficient deception.

 

[Lando]

Sometimes a serve with almost no spin can be more devastating than an incredibly spinny one. All of the previously mentioned rubbers can produce sufficient spin, but it is down to the skill of the server to produce sufficient deception.

Absolutely.

Whenever I think my tenergy 19 is the issue, I watch Kenta just blast FH's and BH's with it and realize it's my shoddy technique lol

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Sometimes a serve with almost no spin can be more devastating than an incredibly spinny one. All of the previously mentioned rubbers can produce sufficient spin, but it is down to the skill of the server to produce sufficient deception.

Agree
The art of spin vs no spin.
Its all about deception, not out spinning your opponents

 

[我❤️打乒乓球]

Still, T05 hard as a lot of spintoential. Pretty much the same as D09c

T05H not the same a D09C bro, I just tried last night. It's really bouncy and requires lots of control, I prefer rubbers with more spin and control but I'll keep playing with it for a while to see what other qualities it has.

 

[sebi]

T05H not the same a D09C bro, I just tried last night. It's really bouncy and requires lots of control, I prefer rubbers with more spin and control but I'll keep playing with it for a while to see what other qualities it has.

It's not about the bounciness, but how much spin it can produce. And in that they are very close D09c a bit more but very close.

 

[我❤️打乒乓球]

It's not about the bounciness, but how much spin it can produce. And in that they are very close D09c a bit more but very close.

Ah yes thanks

 

[Fruitlover]

Absolutely.

Whenever I think my tenergy 19 is the issue, I watch Kenta just blast FH's and BH's with it and realize it's my shoddy technique lol

I actually tested tenergy 19, too, it was great for consistancy (topspin and block), but I had much less spin in my tomahawk-serves compared to all other grippy rubbers I tested. No idea why. I tested rubbers with harder and softer sponge, more and less bouncy rubbers.....

Sometimes a serve with almost no spin can be more devastating than an incredibly spinny one. All of the previously mentioned rubbers can produce sufficient spin, but it is down to the skill of the server to produce sufficient deception.

But why not combine deception and heavy spin?

For heavy spin serves, the easiest is maximum grip with minimum bounce. In my experience, max grip among non-tacky rubbers is D05 but it's quite bouncy. Minimum bounce with excellent grip is G1, though I suspect some of the new harder sponge rubbers are even more grippy than G1 and less bouncy on the relatively soft contact of serving.

A grippy tensor rubber with 1.8 sponge thickness is less bouncy and slower than a rubber with max sponge. Do you think you would create more or less topspin/backspin (serves) with a 1.8 mm rubber?

 

[Dr Evil]

A grippy tensor rubber with 1.8 sponge thickness is less bouncy and slower than a rubber with max sponge. Do you think you would create more or less topspin/backspin (serves) with a 1.8 mm rubber?

Less spin for long fast serves, otherwise not much difference. If you're not coming close to bottoming out the rubber, the spin ceiling depends on top sheet grip much more than sponge thickness. A harder sponge does tend to make it easier to keep spinny serves short and low because it's less bouncy even on soft contact.

 

[Federal_Agent]

Try on Victas V22 ⚡️🏓⚡️