New FH Rubber (Glayzer, Fastarc G1, Omega VII Pro)

[MORTtheORT]

That's actually really weird. I feel that the HAL has a huge dwell on its own, and because of that, there are some rubbers I really can't use with it because it feels like the ball is "glued" to the blade (Hybrid MK Pro being one of those rubbers). That being said, I also think that the arc is somewhat low compared to an ALC blade, and I need to focus more on spinning instead of hitting. Maybe that's what you are talking about, no? On the other hand, I agree with you regarding D80. I love its softer feeling, but on the HAL, I feel the arc is just too low.

So yesterday , I did a training session focused on consistency, and indeed I felt the rubber was different . I probably did a bad job when I glued the fresh sheet because yesterday I could feel the usual dwell of the D05. Still, I think I will try to downgrade it. The opening balls are amazing, but I find myself hitting out of the table when trying to finish the point.

On the other hand , my training partner (who admittedly is weaker than me) couldn't place the ball on the table consistently after my open-ups. I don't want to give up on the monstrous spin that D05 can generate.

I'm still undecided between Fastarc G1 or Glayzer . I will probably buy both and test later this season.

I would be interested to learn what you think about the difference between the G1 and Glayzer. Both are very good rubbers, and it is really just going to come down to what feels right for you. I personally would go with the G1 over the Glayzer. The Glayzer is a good rubber without doubt. But something about it just left me a bit flat, but my mate, who plays well with it, loves it. He does have a more varied game than I do, and I would say he is a better defensive player (I take a game to Topspin ASAP). The G1 IMO delivered more power, which is important to me. I think the G1 is one of the best value to performance rubbers on the market.

 

[Hurricane AON]

G1 is more premium and more durability

 

[po-stit]

Tried the G1 on a friends blade. The blade was a Nittaku Violin and mine is a Xiom Hugo HAL, so his blade is really different, however I did really enjoy the rubber, or the combination. In fact I think I love the blade more than the rubber. He had Tenergy 05 and Fastarc G1 on the same blade and I felt that I could control the T05 even on my backhand which is really weird to me since I've always found T05 to be really bouncy.

That being said I ordered a Fastarc G1 and a Glayzer to see which one fits me best and will post impressions later but im suspecting Glayzer will be more controlled for my game. Fastarc will probably be too fast.

 

[Zezima]

My bet is that you will enjoy Glayzer more than g1

 

[kapahoo]

There is not a significant speed difference between g1 and Glayzer I think. There is difference in feel but otherwise interchangeable.

 

[MORTtheORT]

Tried the G1 on a friends blade. The blade was a Nittaku Violin and mine is a Xiom Hugo HAL, so his blade is really different, however I did really enjoy the rubber, or the combination. In fact I think I love the blade more than the rubber. He had Tenergy 05 and Fastarc G1 on the same blade and I felt that I could control the T05 even on my backhand which is really weird to me since I've always found T05 to be really bouncy.

That being said I ordered a Fastarc G1 and a Glayzer to see which one fits me best and will post impressions later but im suspecting Glayzer will be more controlled for my game. Fastarc will probably be too fast.

Might also be worth checking the thickness of your friends rubbers.

I have just moved to the T05 from the G1 and have strangely found it to have high control despite everything people say about it. I think it you are an active player who likes it when the ball bites into the rubber, then the T05 works. It is harder to play a short game if this is what you are into.

 

[banbekas]

Get Glayzer. G1 is good but Glayzer is easier to use, imho. Even better get C1 or Rozena.

Instead of focusing on your rubber, you should shift your mindset. Don’t compare your spin level against weaker players, try to see whether your heavy loop can trouble stronger opponents instead.

 

[navuzor]

Fastarc: Linear, high arc
Omega pro: bouncy, low arc
Very different in my opinion but both good. It's a personal preference really.
If your technique is not polished, I would agree Rakza 7 would be a better all-around rubber until you decide what's best for your playing style. Believe me you will know when you get there

 

[Ninja26Go]

Hello, guys, I need your help! I need a new forehand rubber.

I've been playing with Dignics 05 on my Hugo HAL and loving it, however, I feel that when I 'm not at my best, I struggle a little. Mainly when out of position, I struggle to activate the sponge and can't generate spin as well. That gets exacerbated on game day, I start to lose confidence and begin missing even more.
I think I need a softer rubber and one that is easier to play. I like the lack of spin sensitivity of the D05 and its linearity. I don't mind a little bit of catapult, but not much. I tried the Hybrid MK on the FH ( I'm currently using it on the BH) and liked it but felt it was a little too slow (I tried the Hybrid MK Pro and didn't enjoy it as much).

Previously i was using T80 on a Innerforce ALC but didnt like the jumpiness/spin sensitivity of it.

From my research , I've come up with three options:

Glayzer (softer D05?)
Fastarc G1 (less reactive T05?)
Omega VII Pro

I tried the Omega VII Tour on a friend 's blade and, despite its hardness, it felt more controlled than my D05. Maybe the Omega VII Pro will be similar but softer?
I appreciate your help.

Fastarc. Not glayzer.

 

[W3R]

just tried G1 on forehand yesterday (blade treiber z - hinoki and some kind of carbon / composite element, kinda fast I would say) and it's pretty dope - very linear, not bouncy kind of feel, when looping mid distance with power it produces some rockets..

added C1 on backhand and I tried both in FH + BH and wasn't in love in either side (still pretty good with more tensor effect) but the G1 was dope!! - I'm eager to go and play again

 

[po-stit]

Tried the G1 yesterday on the Hugo HAL. It's a good rubber, but that was something i knew before hand.

Here are my impressions. Throw is higher compared with the D05 which is good/safer but since im used to the D05 it feels somewhat weird. I guess i could adapt to it if needed to since the throw despite higher is natural, not like with D09 that feels unnatural (in my opinion). Speed at medium hits is really similar to D05, but the ultimate speed/catapult when i hit really hard is lower than D05. It doesnt affect gameplay but the sound the rubber produces is really nice and satisfactory. The rubber feels soft, like really soft. Probably on level, if not softer than my Hybrid MK that im using on the backhand. Together with the softness of the Hugo HAL it feels like the dwell is too much. Prefered the feeling of the rubber on the Nittaku Violin and ultimately i think Hugo HAL still benefits from a harder rubber.

 

[Ultravisitor]

There is not a significant speed difference between g1 and Glayzer I think. There is difference in feel but otherwise interchangeable.

I think g1 is faster on high gears. Glayzer sometimes feels like there is a speed limit. But everything else (spin, arc, control) is better with glayzer.

 

[po-stit]

I think g1 is faster on high gears. Glayzer sometimes feels like there is a speed limit. But everything else (spin, arc, control) is better with glayzer.

Actually I don’t mind that. Hope you are right.

 

[kapahoo]

I think g1 is faster on high gears. Glayzer sometimes feels like there is a speed limit. But everything else (spin, arc, control) is better with glayzer.

Agree! But the differance isn’t that big.

 

[po-stit]

Agree! But the differance isn’t that big.

I think g1 is faster on high gears. Glayzer sometimes feels like there is a speed limit. But everything else (spin, arc, control) is better with glayzer.

Do you guys feel that Glayzer is harder or it feels about the same?

 

[kapahoo]

I'd say it has a slightly harder feeling than G1. The G1 is more towards Tenergy in that sense. Somewhere in between Tenergy and Glayzer.

 

[Ultravisitor]

Do you guys feel that Glayzer is harder or it feels about the same?

Glayzer topsheet grabs better, but feels harder. It just feels very different to esn rubbers.

 

[po-stit]

So to finish this quest I tried the Glayzer on my Hugo HAL and it's the one I will be playing if I really decide to downgrade from D05. It feels like a D05 lite and I feel pretty comfortable with it.

Compared to the Fastarc G1 the throw is lower, the speed is about the same on soft and medium power hit but on harder shots it seems to be slower than Fastarc G1. The short touch play and the lack of speed sensitivity despite really similar I feel that Glayzer is a little bit better.
Glayzer feels a touch harder and relatively stable even if I bottom out the rubber I don't feel a lack of control, I just feel a slower shot coming out while with G1 on harder shots I feel a little bit out of control. I guess I prefer the feeling of Butterfly rubbers on m FH.

Also tested the Glayzer on the backhand and it felt pretty good compared to my Hybrid MK. A touch faster but not much different.

The Glayzer compared to the D05. It has about the same "crispiness" from the top sheet, and the same controlled "catapult". Grip and spin seems really similar. The only thing I think D05 is better is on touch play (normal because the sponge is harder) and the max top speed. With glayzer I can "easily" bottom it out but with the D05 it seems to have infinite power. On serves I also find the Glayzer to be a little bit bouncier and harder too keep short albeit I feel the spin is about the same.

One last note regarding the G1. First time I tested in was on the Nittaku Violin on a friends blade. Loved it on that blade. On my Hugo Hal despite not being perfect for my taste I guess I could adapt to it. However when I tested It on my Harimoto Super ALC the rubber behaved really strange. It was slow, and the arc was really low as well. Put to many balls on the net and I felt that I needed to put a lot of power to have some kind of quality. On slower shots it's like the ball died too "early". I might have botched the gluing job (which I think I didn't) but didn't enjoy it one bit on that specific blade.

 

[jonol]

One last note regarding the G1. First time I tested in was on the Nittaku Violin on a friends blade. Loved it on that blade. On my Hugo Hal despite not being perfect for my taste I guess I could adapt to it. However when I tested It on my Harimoto Super ALC the rubber behaved really strange. It was slow, and the arc was really low as well. Put to many balls on the net and I felt that I needed to put a lot of power to have some kind of quality. On slower shots it's like the ball died too "early". I might have botched the gluing job (which I think I didn't) but didn't enjoy it one bit on that specific blade.

I had a similar experience the first time I used G1 on a carbon blade. I was a bit shocked when I first swapped to Innerforce ALC from my Stratus Power Wood and thought maybe I had gotten a bad sheet or underestimated how different carbon would feel, but after a few hours of play the G1 seemed to go back to the consistency I was used to and I have no complaints since.

My guess is that the bouncier blade + the hard topsheet of the G1 means that it is quite unforgiving until you get a few hours of play to wear the topsheet in.

Before I figured maybe I just adapted to the blade unconsciously, but it's interesting that you had a very similar experience!

 

[Doppelschlag]

Just slightly off-topic: How would you guys compare G1 with Glayzer 09c (G09c)? Myself considering a more linear FH rubber, probably not yet ready to go Chinese …