Comparison of H3N 37 with Various rubbers on BH (G1, D05, Nittaku H8-80 Power, etc.)

[canonFH]

For the past two years, I've been using H3N 37 on my BH. I really like it, however, there are a couple of reasons I look for alternatives from time to time:

1. Consistency: I don't spin a lot on my BH, so minor changes in weight/hardness/boosting mess up my BH and it takes a few days to adjust. I use prov H3 but I'm not a fan of DHS's QC.

2. When out of position, or for passive blocks, there is no way to use this rubber. It just sends an easy ball which is killed by the opponent.

Here are the rubbers I've tried (All on the same blade with H3N BS on FH):

1. Fastarc G1: I've experienced, Nittaku's QC when I used Nittaku H3 OS and every rubber was the same. Its a shame they don't have the BS version. (Not talking about the turbo ones). So I wanted to find a Nittaku rubber for BH. This is a good alternative, however, on anything above medium power shots, it feels like you're playing with the blade. Its also a bit bouncy for my liking. I think I would like it if they make a slightly harder version of this.

2. D05: I honestly don't know why I even tried this, but it turned out to be great. If I hadn't found anything else, I would have used it. Its not as bouncy as I thought it would be, but felt a tad bit too hard for me. I couldn't quite get the hang of how to do slow spinny open ups, but when hitting through the sponge, its a monster. It fixes the issue with passive blocks and out of position shots also land with quality. Just felt a bit too hard sometimes. I know people will recommend D09C but my training partner uses it on FH and it changes a lot during the course of its lifespan and that's not something I can deal with.

3. Nittaku H8-80 Power: I bought a sheet of DHS H8-80 too to compare with this, but that one weighs 75g uncut, so I didn't bother pasting it. This weighs 65g uncut. My racket with this weighs 190g which is on the limit of what I can handle, but that aside, everything else is great with this rubber. It feels that same as H3 in almost everything. Short game is good, 4th and 5th ball are also similar to H3 where you can ignore opponent's spin.

It is a bit faster on medium power shots, but finishing power is less than H3 (though that really doesn't affect anything). Out of position shots are better than H3 but worse than G1 and D05. Passive blocks are similar to H3. I was more consistent with BH flicks with this but they are less dangerous compared to H3. I've been playing with this for about a week now and for my style it suits really well. Someone said it has a low throw, but I found it similar to H3.

Assuming the Nittaku's QC standards will apply to this one as well, I would recommend this over H3 37 for three reasons:
- no need to boost (Active Charge by Nittaku, which I assume is corporate speak for boosting)
- consistency between sheets
- slightly easier to play with (though you do trade ease of play with spin and speed ceilings)

I will provide more information about durability and consistency after a few months.

 

[canonFH]

Some other rubbers I've tried on BH:

- Big Dipper: Just a slow rubber. Not particularly good at anything. Don't know why it has good reviews.

- Moon 12 Blue: Really fun rubber. Great for people who like to borrow opponent's power and don't quite know how to generate their own power. This will teach you how to generate power.

- Victas TDE: Tried because someone said it is usable for BH. It is not. It looks and sort of feels like H3 BS but is considerably worse in spin. Might as well use H3 BS at this point.

 

[Tyce]

You might want to try H3 38 instead. 37 is quite different, it's even called "Hurricane 3 soft". The 38 degree version is not the "soft" and might be a bit more consistently produced as the process for the regular H3 is matured and too hard of a sponge will probably go on to become marked as 39 degrees instead.

 

[canonFH]

You might want to try H3 38 instead. 37 is quite different, it's even called "Hurricane 3 soft". The 38 degree version is not the "soft" and might be a bit more consistently produced as the process for the regular H3 is matured and too hard of a sponge will probably go on to become marked as 39 degrees instead.

I have tried it, but its too hard for my BH and I can't handle it. I boosted it too much to try to make it softer and the topsheet separated from the sponge.

 

[NextLevel]

For the past two years, I've been using H3N 37 on my BH. I really like it, however, there are a couple of reasons I look for alternatives from time to time:

1. Consistency: I don't spin a lot on my BH, so minor changes in weight/hardness/boosting mess up my BH and it takes a few days to adjust. I use prov H3 but I'm not a fan of DHS's QC.

2. When out of position, or for passive blocks, there is no way to use this rubber. It just sends an easy ball which is killed by the opponent.

Here are the rubbers I've tried (All on the same blade with H3N BS on FH):

1. Fastarc G1: I've experienced, Nittaku's QC when I used Nittaku H3 OS and every rubber was the same. Its a shame they don't have the BS version. (Not talking about the turbo ones). So I wanted to find a Nittaku rubber for BH. This is a good alternative, however, on anything above medium power shots, it feels like you're playing with the blade. Its also a bit bouncy for my liking. I think I would like it if they make a slightly harder version of this.

2. D05: I honestly don't know why I even tried this, but it turned out to be great. If I hadn't found anything else, I would have used it. Its not as bouncy as I thought it would be, but felt a tad bit too hard for me. I couldn't quite get the hang of how to do slow spinny open ups, but when hitting through the sponge, its a monster. It fixes the issue with passive blocks and out of position shots also land with quality. Just felt a bit too hard sometimes. I know people will recommend D09C but my training partner uses it on FH and it changes a lot during the course of its lifespan and that's not something I can deal with.

3. Nittaku H8-80 Power: I bought a sheet of DHS H8-80 too to compare with this, but that one weighs 75g uncut, so I didn't bother pasting it. This weighs 65g uncut. My racket with this weighs 190g which is on the limit of what I can handle, but that aside, everything else is great with this rubber. It feels that same as H3 in almost everything. Short game is good, 4th and 5th ball are also similar to H3 where you can ignore opponent's spin.

It is a bit faster on medium power shots, but finishing power is less than H3 (though that really doesn't affect anything). Out of position shots are better than H3 but worse than G1 and D05. Passive blocks are similar to H3. I was more consistent with BH flicks with this but they are less dangerous compared to H3. I've been playing with this for about a week now and for my style it suits really well. Someone said it has a low throw, but I found it similar to H3.

Assuming the Nittaku's QC standards will apply to this one as well, I would recommend this over H3 37 for three reasons:
- no need to boost (Active Charge by Nittaku, which I assume is corporate speak for boosting)
- consistency between sheets
- slightly easier to play with (though you do trade ease of play with spin and speed ceilings)

I will provide more information about durability and consistency after a few months.

I think if your argument is that D09c changes a lot in a way that other rubbers don't, you will be looking for a long time. D09c is pretty stable and gives you the usual Butterfly curve. If D05 is too hard, D80 is the logical step. It is the most all round rubber I have used on my backhand.

Finally,there is Zyre. 80 is softer, but Zyre gives more than 80 with a harder sponge and higher price and much more sponge if that gives you control.

I don't recommend ESNs usually because of durability but for actual play, K3 is excellent.

 

[Ultravisitor]

Butterfly Glayzer might be right for you. It's softer than Dignics 05 but same top sheet. Con is you really feel the top speed limits.

Also Stiga Mantra Pro might be interesting for you. Very durable and similar to G1, but lower throw and more spin and power, but similar control

 

[golden_son]

I didn't find Mantra Pro good at open-ups. Great at blocking and countering, but having used it and H8-80 Power for BH on the same blade I think OP will not like Mantra Pro if they like the H8-80P. Glayzer could work; it's harder than Mantra Pro (M anyway) but I feel like it grips better. It has more dwell on an inner-carbon blade as well.

 

[canonFH]

I think if your argument is that D09c changes a lot in a way that other rubbers don't, you will be looking for a long time. D09c is pretty stable and gives you the usual Butterfly curve. If D05 is too hard, D80 is the logical step. It is the most all round rubber I have used on my backhand.

Finally,there is Zyre. 80 is softer, but Zyre gives more than 80 with a harder sponge and higher price and much more sponge if that gives you control.

I don't recommend ESNs usually because of durability but for actual play, K3 is excellent.

Right now, H8-80 Power feels good to me, but I can really only tell if I'll keep it after I play a tournament.

Will try D80 after that if its softer than D05, but my understanding was that they have the same sponge, only topsheet is different.

I have had a hit with Zyre a couple of times, didn't like the feeling.

 

[NextLevel]

Right now, H8-80 Power feels good to me, but I can really only tell if I'll keep it after I play a tournament.

Will try D80 after that if its softer than D05, but my understanding was that they have the same sponge, only topsheet is different.

I have had a hit with Zyre a couple of times, didn't like the feeling.

Topsheet (pips configuration) has an influence on how hard a rubber plays, the 80 configuration is softer than the 05 configuration, so the arc is relatively lower with the positives and negatives of such.

And of course, there is nothing wrong with sticking with ehat you have. In the same vein, there is no way to tell D09c on the backhand will be as mercurial as you think, even with the experience of your training partner, unless youbtry it yourself. Especially since you say you don't loop that much.