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  1. I could never be an ittf pro

    Even if I had the level. Long distance travel is one of the most stressful annoying things I have done.
  2. I wasted 12 years of my life trying to play table tennis

    there's many ways to make money with tt. -you can have a club. -you can have a shop. -you can be a coach. -you can be part of a coaching team. -you can give out courses. -you can have a youtube channel it's not only the top ittf 100 that make money. but yeah in general the professions that use...
  3. I wasted 12 years of my life trying to play table tennis

    you need to have certain exceptional mental capacities to get a medical degree. not everybody can do it. and even if you do get the degree not all doctors have the same working conditions. a doctor in luxembourg might have an impressive salary. a doctor in congo might work for free or for a...
  4. I wasted 12 years of my life trying to play table tennis

    whatever profession you choose you will only get paid if you are really good at it. be it table tennis player, doctor, lawyer, architect.... the idea that being a pro tt player is incredibly hard and being a lawyer is an easy way out for the lazy seems ludicrous to me. it depends on the...
  5. I wasted 12 years of my life trying to play table tennis

    well if being a world class player is incredibly rare being a world class player and incredibly smart must be like meeting an alien!!! or a lizzard people!!!!
  6. I wasted 12 years of my life trying to play table tennis

    yes I agree that table tennis players in general are educated compared to other sports. at least in the amateur level. in the high level if they dedicate their entire life to the sport it's more or less the same as other sports probably.
  7. I wasted 12 years of my life trying to play table tennis

    not really. actually people who are very good at sports are often assumed to not be very intelligent. the people I met in real life generally go by this rule. either they are intelligent or good at sports. not both. "no but ariel hsing was in the usa team and she has 3 university degrees and...
  8. I wasted 12 years of my life trying to play table tennis

    Most people will not become doctors, lawyers or be college graduates. For all those people things like tt medals are achievements of their lives.
  9. I wasted 12 years of my life trying to play table tennis

    It is worth it. If the kid finds something that gives him a sense of achievement he should take it I know many adults who's greatest achievements were their ping pong years. Not everybody in life gets to be an accomplished doctor or lawyer.
  10. I wasted 12 years of my life trying to play table tennis

    They are different persons. We are all born different with different skills. It makes no sense what you are trying to argue, it's like talking to a 6 year old kid. You think humans are all made identical in a machine.
  11. I wasted 12 years of my life trying to play table tennis

    Jan ove waldner has a brother and they played together when they started. There you have your proof that it's more about the individual, not so much the training system.
  12. I wasted 12 years of my life trying to play table tennis

    Yes. Here for example there's tons of kids that go to the national team. They all train together, have the same coaches, similar ages, etc. Yet there's only one who was able to establish himself in the top leagues of Europe. Why? Because he was born with better genes than the others to play TT...
  13. I wasted 12 years of my life trying to play table tennis

    Training and guidance are secondary. You need to be born with all the right characteristics to be able to achieve the highest levels.
  14. I wasted 12 years of my life trying to play table tennis

    what kind of life do you imagine other kids have? They go to school, play sports, party once in a while.... that's it. I bet when you are 40 and spend your days behind a desk you'll be like "Man I wish I could go back to being young again and spend my days playing TT"
  15. what happens when you get to THE POINT

    I'm just stating the obvious fact of life. People plateau after a number of years. Then after that it's just a slow decline due to age. If your TT career is 40 years it might be that you reach the peak in the 5th year and then you have 35 years of slow decline. That's just how it is....and it's...
  16. what happens when you get to THE POINT

    But other players also train and try to improve. And if their ranking is higher they generally have access to better training partners than you. So in the end this pyramid structure forms that keeps people from moving up or down. Actually age moves people down little by little
  17. what happens when you get to THE POINT

    I've seen people leave the sport and come back after years..... and guess what..... THEY ARE STILL ON THE SAME DIVISION WHERE THEY WERE WHEN THEY LEFT. they just need a couple months training. this I'm talking about seasoned players with decades under their belt competing. not about woo woo AI...
  18. what happens when you get to THE POINT

    what about you? how long ago did you start competing? in what division are you? the thread was meant as a deep dive of a terryfing situation over the tt clubs in the planet earth. not about my personal situation and "how can we help you". it seems every thread people react in this way "let's...
  19. what happens when you get to THE POINT

    well you are both in a plateau too. the whole world is in a big plateau. you just trick yourself into thinking you are improving. in what division are you now and it what division were you 3 years ago? also for context when did you start competing?
  20. what happens when you get to THE POINT

    it's not just about me. in the club every time 2 players play I already know who is going to win based on their rankings (which almost never changes). they can play 100 times and 90 times the result will be the same. so it all becomes really predictable and boring. I'm not talking about novice...
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