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I had two Nuytinck ZC and the speed ratings that people usually attribute them feel odd to me. The first one I had was around 89g and was definitely OFF, this second one with the same weight feels even faster OFF/OFF+ faster than a Boll Alc, Viscaria, Donic True carbon and closer to Timo Boll...

Still happy with it Andrea? Do you feel the same pro's or new drawbacks?

Are there players on the forum who play with Cybershape Carbon? Are you happy with the equipment, or returned to more conventional woods? Pros and cons that you find agaisnt the woods you previously played with?

Oh cool, I played trinity but wasn’t my thing. To me didn’t felt very crispy overall. I liked the Limba feel tough.

Even so, I’m from Europe, plus taxes would be close to the same price. Got one Cybershape carbon CWT second hand with rubbers for a nice value. Just waiting now. Do you play with one too? With what did you play previously and differences?

Why do you use that one instead of the original CSC? Price? Wood Properties?

I use hybrid rubbers so they could tame it a little bit 😁

Yes it’s a great site!! They say it’s faster than innerforce but with deep hold too, seems great. The koto outer maybe be a bit worse to loop the first ball and a bit better to block? I read too many reviews that say cybershape it’s not so good to loop, better to block and hit. I’ve tried...

So in the end which one did you prefer? Advantages of cybershape carbon and drawbacks? Advantages of innerforce alc and drawbacks? With my innerforce against some stronger opponents it lacks power in smaller swings, could cybershape be better for that? Or even being better it loses the feel...

No news about this blade? In comparison with other we’ll known blades what to expect of dyneema carbon?

I’m considering the Trinity for my main blade, I play with an innerforce type blade wich I like allot. But somehow, even doing the best results I ever made, I’m getting a bit bored with it. I like Limba, gives confidence in some shots because of its good feeling and dwell. Each blade has it...

I can give you my insight about the Shang Kun AC, the rest is up to you. I tested and like to try new blades and rubbers, and never got a feeling like this one (never tried another good innerforce previously so could be because of it), played with some famous butterfly blades like Viscaria...

I’ve been playing with this blade for some months now. And everything I felt in the beginning was confirmed, not a coincidence both Lebrun brothers played with this when they changed from butterfly to Tibhar. Just find odd that it ain’t more popular or talked online. Would love to watch a...

I played with Viscaria but flared so can't compare much. For me feels a bit thin, but I'm used to flared blades more. Playabilitywise I liked it allot, a tad less power than Viscaria but so much better control in all the moments of the game, mainly receives, agressive blocks, counter top...

Tibhar Shang Kun AC, buyed it a couple days ago and i'm completly in love with it.

Do you think Nittaku Fastarc G1 could be an alternative? Only read good things about it.

I agree MXP surface is a bit hard and trajectory could be better imo. The K3 higher price could be fought if it has a better durability that MXP wich is lackluster.