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Let's make it clearer. Do you think the ratio is the same when seriving with a non- tacky rubber and if not, what would be the ratios of brush and hit using a non-tacky rubber to get the same effect?

Thin brush or thick brush?

This may be true, but spin isn't everything. Some people will block with Tenergy and that might lose the same amount of points they gained from the spin of Tenergy had they blocked with Rozena. Not being like Tenergy isn't the end of the world and Rozena does have good spin.

I disagree I got that from Merlin. If I asked you the question, does it require thicker contact and a more effortful swing to serve backspin with a tacky rubber vs a non-tacky rubber, I am not sure I would get a straight answer. I think that relative to when I serve with non-tacky rubbers...

If you had said tacky rubbers can generate more spin on backspin serves, but they require more effort to get that spin, no one would be arguing with you. You seemed to imply that using similar serving motions, it is easier to get more spin on a backspin serve with a tacky rubber, and the point...

I can agree with the conclusion even if I disagree with the logic that got you there - yes tacky rubbers can be useful for many styles, just as non-tacky rubbers are. Whether it is because tacky rubbers generate more spin on a backspin serve or are easier for "lower level players" to use to...

I can't remember anyone having used the phrase "strong hit" before this thread. I usually try to figure out what someone is trying to say, rather than strictly imposing what I think words mean into what they mean. It doesn't make me right, it is just my approach. And when someone says "strong...

I am not alone (I suspect merlin, zeio and blahness would agree) and have pointed out that even on a pure backspin serve, to get more rotation, you hit upwards on the front of the ball, and to do that and get the ball to release from your rubber, you need more effort do do so with a tacky...

If that is what you think I am trying to do, sure. I am trying to make the point that on backspin serves, my contact with tacky rubbers is much thicker than it is with non-tacky rubbers. The technique is much more active.

I think you don't want to make a distinction between "more effort" or "thicker contact", which is what is meant by "strong hits". As zeio pointed out, the contact one makes on a backspin serve with tacky rubber involves a bigger swing (or actually more powerful swing) than that with a...

My short backspin serve with ESN non sticky rubber or even Tenergy is heavier than any backspin serve I can produce with Tacky rubber, to get the same with tacky rubber, I have to put in more effort. It's not as straightforward as you are making out.

The thing is that side of the ball contact makes heavy spin easier to control so he is likely relying heavily on your incoming topspin. Of course, you have options to decide his game within your framework. The assumption of course is that he isn't inherently a good player. I have played lots of...

It is hard to hit sidespin loops from the middle of the table, admittedly fading from the backhand is annoying, but it is usually a different animal from a forehand hook. That said you do seem to have solutions and some are promising. But avoid creating an angle and refusing to cover it. If...

Give it a shot you might surprise yourself. In fact, more and more players are punch blocking from behind the table in rallies, my practice partner hits quite a few in matches and it is more annoying than topspin to br honest. The first principle of TT practice is to test things out, avoid...

Move the ball around, more towards their elbow, quality isn't the only way to win points in table tennis. Sometimes sequencing shots slightly differently avoids certain possibilities and even moving the ball 6 inches to the left or right can totally change the trajectory of a point.

Yeah, I have almost always gotten more spin serving with non-tacky rubber because my serves are relatively whippy and low impact strokes. More like the short Timo Boll method than the physical Ma Long method. This has changed a bit as my game has gotten more physical and drive oriented, but...

If you open with slow spin, you will usually get a slower block back unless your opponent is punching or counterlooping the high ball. You have to take that ball a bit earlier if you want to be aggressive. If you hit with speed, you usually get speed back and you should be able to use that to...

So I was one of those players who didn't develop foot movements early and developed them later (if I have them at all). So I am really not great when focusing on beginner foot movements. But for me, learning to hit the ball properly is always a priority. People who can move but can't hit the...

So Gozo's post is precisely the kind of post that makes me happy we have video of him play so we can put his statements in context. Because the same way getting a proper coach helps, irrespective of what you use, I can say that equipment that is too fast (very stiff blade with high rebound)...

You definitely were misunderstanding him on some points, but it is okay, glad to see it is all over.