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Table tennis rewards strength and endurance just as many sports do. It is always a dangerous thing to say something like "the benefits of doping in table tennis are not very remarkable" - the benefits of doping in any activity are not remarkable, they just make it easier to train much harder...

I am not a political expert so I don't seriously debate facts because while facts are supposed to be facts, you find that different people have different facts. What I have learned is that a lot of things called facts depend on perspective and what you are exposed to. Even on this thread...

Okay. So why do you think it is okay for Vlad to play in French League but not for WTT? I am trying to understand where you are coming from. You have said that countries fighting wars should not be allowed to play in WTT, but you have not said Israel or Iran or USA should not play in WTT. I...

Not understanding you at all. If Pro A lets Sidorenko play, they are not supporting Russia, but if WTT does, they are supporting Russia? How do the two situations support Russia differently?

So why do you think WTT is supposed to not let Russians play but Pro A should? Or maybe I am misunderstanding you?

Thanks for being direct. Why don't you think they are supporting Russia by letting Sidorenko play? What is the main difference (for you) between Sidorenko playing in French league and playing in WTT?

Do you think they are supporting Russia by letting him play while he is a Russian citizen?

So why do you think French clubs are letting him play in their leagues? Are they supporting Russia?

Do you think Sidorenko should be allowed to play in French league Pro A?

This by the way is not the first time this issue as come on TTD, the thread is an off shoot of the recent US Smash tournament thread, some posters there didn't like the fact that Sidorenko was being allowed to play so I moved it over here. Please keep it civil - gracias.

And you seriously think Sidorenko is going to go away quietly and these issues don't need a place to live? Other than a forum wide ban on politics, there is no serious alternative. This is not the first time this has come up on TTD and it won't be the last as long as the Sidorenko, Grebnev...

Ultimately these are all political discussions. But the sport and the ability of the sport's body to defend itself against the arguments of the opposition matter. And table tennis could not show that there was a significant risk to accommodating Russian athletes while sports like football did...

Sora is being given a ton or runway.... will he take advantage?

Give us a break, they were preparing him for LA 2028.

OK. Please read what I wrote originally carefully, I was speaking about Sidorenko, not the Russian government. English is not your first language I guess, and I don't know if Chrome is translating me correctly, but you missed my point.

That is a more nuanced argument and it is one I can agree with. My main counterpoint is that sports are not always about the organization, they are also about the individual. If Sidorenko is not playing in a Russian league etc., he has done the best he can. If he is going back and forth and...

People infer a lot of things from body language that are not clearly true. Also, Ma Long did not have the audience watching him at his age that Sora does now. My main point is that younger players are immature by definition. The result is the most important thing, not the coping mechanism -...

Politics is really insane.

Unambiguous is yes or no. He didn't say yes or no. My point is simple - if Russian athletes are to be attacked for supposedly supporting the Russian government, then what about countries that you know are supporting the Russian government? Do you want to ban athletes from those countries as...

I just want to understand how far you want to go. China is supporting the Russian economy. North Korea is sending troops in support of Russia. Since you want to hold Russian table tennis players accountable as a moral stance, I Want to understand your morality on those countries.