Best glue for easy removal from rubber

[K.K]

did any of you tried these new natural rubber glues that tibhar, andro and donic recently released? they all share the same bottle with a black and transparent cap and all called 'pro ... glue'. i heard they are really thick like DHS but without ammonia and give a totally different feeling of bounce then revolution no.3.

lately my rev.03 glue is really inconsistent and is not sticking to my blade anymore despite having 2+2 layers.
so i'm looking for a glue with the same speedglue effect, easy to peel off and still holding tight on my blade

 

[NetProphet]

DHS and 729 is overpriced for me, I use all other Chinese glues and they all work perfectly (Liulan, Sueke, Winion, Yinhe, Loki) - but my most favorite is Liulan (best price), 2nd place is Sueke and Winion (best quality)

What are the prices of these glues?
At €35 for 500ml that's €3.50 for 50mlso it's good value in the bigger bottle.
You're right tho, I see many glues sold at close to ~€10 for 50 ml, that's too much for me!

 

[IB66]

I've never had any issues with Revo no3. DHS no 15 was a bitch to remove !! It never came off as easily as Revo no3, must have been doing something wrong with the DHS 15.

 

[longle]

What are the prices of these glues?
At €35 for 500ml that's €3.50 for 50mlso it's good value in the bigger bottle.
You're right tho, I see many glues sold at close to ~€10 for 50 ml, that's too much for me!

I bought them for around 4-4.5$/100ml, compares to 9.5$/100ml of DHS no.15, nearly half the price, so I can go all out with my glueing job 🤣

 

[kapahoo]

Problem with easy-to-remove-glues is that the rubber is easily removed...

 

[NetProphet]

Problem with easy-to-remove-glues is that the rubber is easily removed...

Not always.
The DHS glue (and I know I'm coming across as a real fanboy now) sticks my rubbers on the blade like shit on a blanket but still comes away from the rubber relatively easily when it comes to regluing

 

[lodro]

I'm perplexed why ammonia seems to be used by some table tennis brands, when the ITTF has banned VOC-based glues.

.......you know I never thought about that but this is an aspect worth to consider. I don't know if ammonia is classified as a VOC just because it smells a bit but the VOC that ITTF tries to ban obviously is known to have damaging effects on brains and nervous system.
Personally I quite like the smell of a bit of ammonia in the morning but of cause Napalm is still preferred 😁

 

[PawnOnF4]

Copydex is easy to remove as long as I apply at least 3 layers (one on the blade + two on the rubber)

 

[lodro]

Not always.
The DHS glue (and I know I'm coming across as a real fanboy now) sticks my rubbers on the blade like shit on a blanket but still comes away from the rubber relatively easily when it comes to regluing

Hi Fanboy, I am posting this not to burst you bubble , I think DHS15 is a good glue. However, it is not as good as Sueke. My coach has been a fanboy of DHS and so i took 2 identical pieces of rubber (LAC) and glued them on a blade using DHS15 on one and Sueke on the other, then let my coach rip them off a couple a days later. Boy did he hated to admit it but Sueke holds better than DHS 15 and both come off easy from the rubbers.

 

[NetProphet]

Hi Fanboy, I am posting this not to burst you bubble , I think DHS15 is a good glue. However, it is not as good as Sueke. My coach has been a fanboy of DHS and so i took 2 identical pieces of rubber (LAC) and glued them on a blade using DHS15 on one and Sueke on the other, then let my coach rip them off a couple a days later. Boy did he hated to admit it but Sueke holds better than DHS 15 and both come off easy from the rubbers.

Sueke holds better but both come off easy from the rubber - that sounds somehow paradoxical but I know what you're saying! 😉
I already think the DHS is strong enough so I probably do don't need anything more but if I find its also cheaper then I'll try it next time I'm buying.
Do you have a link to the actual one you use?

 

[lodro]

Sueke holds better but both come off easy from the rubber - that sounds somehow paradoxical but I know what you're saying! 😉
I already think the DHS is strong enough so I probably do don't need anything more but if I find its also cheaper then I'll try it next time I'm buying.
Do you have a link to the actual one you use?

New Arrival Sueke Suke Table Tennis Racket Water Soluble Inorganic Glue Rubber Adhesive 260ML With Sponge - AliExpress 18

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If this link works for you then yes indeed it will be cheaper than the DHS because it offers the ""Choice - feature " with free shipping.
this one is with shipping:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006658482933.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.13.da624b72U3dpnY&algo_pvid=81999d6b-7330-4b1f-83bc-4b34b955c886&algo_exp_id=81999d6b-7330-4b1f-83bc-4b34b955c886-6&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21NZD%2119.03%2115.61%21%21%2182.40%2167.57%21%402103247017279132107068935e5337%2112000037945423163%21sea%21NZ%21139609019%21X&curPageLogUid=bAvdCuTtuIlv&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch%7Cquery_from%3A

A little explanation re both come off easy from the rubbers : If you would "pull off "a 1" wide strip of glue, you would find that the DHS strip would break sooner . I suppose this makes the Sueke film stronger or more elastic. This makes it muche more likely to actually pull the whole rubber sheet off the rubber without braking and having to "nibble away " at it, which i really hate to do.

I don't know if you watched the revolution videos where the "demo man" always showed off how he can pull the whole sheet away in one bit. I am sure this would work only if one has a solid 4 layer of the glue on the rubber. With Sueke this works with 2 layers.
Having rambled on like a genuine Sueke-fan-boy, I am also a fan of " If it works for you - stick with it."

 

[haggisv]

Are the blue or beige bottles the same?

It mentions a 3-month shelve life, has that been an issue for you?

 

[longle]

Hi Fanboy, I am posting this not to burst you bubble , I think DHS15 is a good glue. However, it is not as good as Sueke. My coach has been a fanboy of DHS and so i took 2 identical pieces of rubber (LAC) and glued them on a blade using DHS15 on one and Sueke on the other, then let my coach rip them off a couple a days later. Boy did he hated to admit it but Sueke holds better than DHS 15 and both come off easy from the rubbers.

yes, it's now one of my most favorite glue - there's no.1 and no.2, don't know what's the difference since I only used no.2 though

 

[lodro]

yes, it's now one of my most favorite glue - there's no.1 and no.2, don't know what's the difference since I only used no.2 though

my info told me that only the bottle color is different

 

[lodro]

Are the blue or beige bottles the same?

It mentions a 3-month shelve life, has that been an issue for you?

not at all, I keep the bottles in the fridge and they last forever.

 

[JJ Ng]

I have stopped using Rev No 3 glue because I agree it is inconsistent. Some blades that are laquered, it does not matter how many layers of Rev No 3 glue I apply, the rubber just does not stick!

I only use Butterfly Free Chack Pro II now. It is thick and dries really fast. I always apply two layers to the rubber and two layers to the blade. The worst thing that can happen is, the rubber does not stick and then you have to take it off and do it again. If so, you might end up using a perfectly new rubber due to the stupid glue.

To save a couple cents on glue while ruining a perfectly new rubber that costs $30-$65 a piece does not make sense to me.

As for as glue removal, it is actually dependent on the rubber. For example, DHS (or any Chinese rubber with dense sponge) and Butterfly rubbers, you can remove the glue easily without damaging the sponge. I am currently removing the glue from a sheet of Butterfly Glayzer and so far so good. Butterfly has some numbers printed at the bottom of the sheet so around that area, you might get little holes coming off. But the rest of the sponge stays intact while I am slowly removing the glue as I am typing right now.

However, many ESN rubbers I use (with the worst offenders being Rakza 7 soft or the Xiom Vega Series or C-1), then you remove the glue, no matter how careful you are, the sponge will always end up with some holes here and there. For those rubbers, I just take them off the blade and not remove any glue. I just apply one layer of booster and one layer of glue, and I stick it back on the blade maybe 1-2 days later. I don't have the time or the desire to remove glues from those sponges anymore. I just know I will not be happy with the end result. So leave the glue on, apply one layer of booster and put it back on the blade 1-2 days later.

It is not the glue. It is the rubber and the sponge.

 

[K.K]

wow seams really like a high praise by many members for that sueke no.2! then i need to check that out. i just don’t know what i should do with 260 ml

but nobody tried that new “Pro” glues by andro, tibhar and donic? they say this new glue formula makes the rubber more elastic and gives more dwell while holding the rubber much stronger on the blade

 

[lodro]

they say this new glue formula makes the rubber more elastic and gives more dwell while holding the rubber much stronger on the blade

pretty much the identical words used by Revolution3 glue😂

 

[K.K]

pretty much the identical words used by Revolution3 glue😂

that is right

for me at least rev.03 always just felt softer compared to those first waterbased glues especially with several layers. sometimes even dull if i have to many layers.

the new ones say (maybe just marketing, maybe real) they will feel harder, and from the look from videos they seam really thick and goey.

how does sueke no.2 feel like for you?

 

[latej]

I use Revo3 high viscosity, 2 layers on rubber, 2 on blade, and can remove the glue mostly in one go. But if the glue is older, then it tends to break...