Best rubber for Long 5 BH

[job59]

Hi there,
maybe I'm lucky with some quick advices.

I switched from Illusionkiller to DHS 301X some weeks ago. As I was looking for a backup racket, I was wondering if I could get a Long 5 (at least a must-have for a fan of Chinese table tennis). Interestingly, there is a wide range about the characteristics on the web. Revspin shows the blade as one of the fastest, while TTGearLab puts it in a medium range, clearly slower than the 301X. ???

Ok - I was able to get a Long 5 for a good price and it arrived today. 🤗 Unfortunately, my standard and save BH rubber, Hybrid MK, got damaged after peeling off old glue. A new one is on the way - but of course I want to use the L5 ASAP, maybe playing at the club championship tomorrow.

So I need your suggestions. What I have in stock: Loki Arthur Asia (max, boostered), Dignics 80 (max) and Dignics 90C (2.0).

TIA

 

[TensorBackhand]

Any of your rubbers would be great for bh. D09c, D80 are both good.

Arthur China boosted would be excellent for bh too, even faster than D09c.

 

[job59]

Any of your rubbers would be great for bh. D09c, D80 are both good.

Arthur China boosted would be excellent for bh too, even faster than D09c.

Thanks.

As my LAA got damaged when taking off from another blade, I chose the D80. Let's see tomorrow. 🤩

 

[SFF_lib]

I've played 968/HL5 for quite some time, best ones in order:

1. D09C
2. 38-40 degree H8
3. TG3 39-40
4. J&H H52.5

non-tacky rubbers don't work well on BH. H3 on bh requires too much effort.

 

[TensorBackhand]

I've played 968/HL5 for quite some time, best ones in order:

1. D09C
2. 38-40 degree H8
3. TG3 39-40
4. J&H H52.5

non-tacky rubbers don't work well on BH. H3 on bh requires too much effort.

H8 is really standout as bh rubber. It's faster than H3, but still gives you the excellent grip and control.

D09c and ESN hybrids also work great and have a more natural bh feeling than DHS.

On the cheap end, boosted Big Dipper and LAC both are excellent.

 

[Egon]

I also like the Glayzer 09C on booster

 

[Egon]

H8 is really standout as bh rubber. It's faster than H3, but still gives you the excellent grip and control.

D09c and ESN hybrids also work great and have a more natural bh feeling than DHS.

On the cheap end, boosted Big Dipper and LAC both are excellent.

LAC is very heavy and with H3 on the forehand they change the balance of the racket in the head a lot, I don't like it. G09C is light, very grippy and relatively inexpensive compared to Dignics.

 

[dingyibvs]

I've played 968/HL5 for quite some time, best ones in order:

1. D09C
2. 38-40 degree H8
3. TG3 39-40
4. J&H H52.5

non-tacky rubbers don't work well on BH. H3 on bh requires too much effort.

H8-80 or 20? H3 boosted certainly is a bit slow but has oodles of spin, and when hit hard the power of the blade and rubber harmonize well and you can hit some real cracking shots. The issue with the HL5's BH is that it holds onto the ball a very long time, so your typical power BH strokes are difficult to execute. You can try to alleviate that by using something bouncier like the D09c, or do as the CNT members do and lean into it and using H3 or H8-20 and develop a different BH game. My preference when using a HL5 variant is just to lean into it as using something like the D09c kinda gives you something in between that doesn't maximize the qualities of the blade. I would either do a shorter stroke so you're maximizing brushing or a bigger stroke to maximize the power provided by the long dwell time.

 

[SFF_lib]

H8-80 or 20? H3 boosted certainly is a bit slow but has oodles of spin, and when hit hard the power of the blade and rubber harmonize well and you can hit some real cracking shots. The issue with the HL5's BH is that it holds onto the ball a very long time, so your typical power BH strokes are difficult to execute. You can try to alleviate that by using something bouncier like the D09c, or do as the CNT members do and lean into it and using H3 or H8-20 and develop a different BH game. My preference when using a HL5 variant is just to lean into it as using something like the D09c kinda gives you something in between that doesn't maximize the qualities of the blade. I would either do a shorter stroke so you're maximizing brushing or a bigger stroke to maximize the power provided by the long dwell time.

I prefer normal H8

H8-80 has very poor QC

H8-20 provincial has terrible review in China

 

[dingyibvs]

I prefer normal H8

H8-80 has very poor QC

H8-20 provincial has terrible review in China

Doesn't the H8 only come in number 80 and 20 sponges? So which one are you referring to as the "normal" H8?

 

[Zwill]

Normal H8 has no 25 sponge. 20 and 80 are later editions.

 

[job59]

H8-80 or 20? H3 boosted certainly is a bit slow but has oodles of spin, and when hit hard the power of the blade and rubber harmonize well and you can hit some real cracking shots. The issue with the HL5's BH is that it holds onto the ball a very long time, so your typical power BH strokes are difficult to execute. You can try to alleviate that by using something bouncier like the D09c, or do as the CNT members do and lean into it and using H3 or H8-20 and develop a different BH game. My preference when using a HL5 variant is just to lean into it as using something like the D09c kinda gives you something in between that doesn't maximize the qualities of the blade. I would either do a shorter stroke so you're maximizing brushing or a bigger stroke to maximize the power provided by the long dwell time.

Thanks for your explanation.

Meanwhile, I got a new Hybrid MK and put it to my BH. As it is Max instead of 2.0 I used in the past, I was wondering about a kind of "keeping" feeling at times. Your description shows another reason. Maybe I need to make a try with 2.0 again.

In general, the L5X is giving a more controlled feeling than the 301X to me. So I'm more on the side of TTGearLab than Revspin. I played well at our club championship (with D09C) and the first league matches ran well too (HMK max). 😃