Blades Limba-Limba-ALC-Kiri-ALC-Limba-Limba

[merlin el mago]

Could be, Stevinou database consider two different woods https://stervinou.net/ttbdb/lexik.php

Have you read the link banbekas?

 

[the-don]

I had one like this.
the 729 V-6
but I think it's discontinued.

 

[neon]

Hello, it is easier to find a central layer of kiri than a middle layer of limba. In the new models, even on Butterfly, this layer has been replaced with samba (ayous).

 

[banbekas]

Have you read the link banbekas?

I have. It really doesn't mean anything. The link has provided us with composition and as a responsible adult we need to our due diligence.

 

[merlin el mago]

For me Stevinou stated are different woods.

 

[zerofox]

Donic Xtreme

 

[banbekas]

For me Stevinou stated are different woods.

Cool, but google or Gemini is just one click away. Like I said, do our own due diligence.

 

[merlin el mago]

Well don't confuse like people uses Tung as Kiri or v.v. but this isn't the same like is the same wood.

Kiri: Paulownia tomentosa
Tung: Vernicia fordii

 

[K.K]

donic whipper inner is kiri core and yellow alc
harimoto super alc is kiri core and same as harimoto super zlc

 

[banbekas]

Well don't confuse like people uses Tung as Kiri or v.v. but this isn't the same like is the same wood.

Kiri: Paulownia tomentosa
Tung: Vernicia fordii

1. Botanical Classification​

• Kiri (Paulownia tomentosa): Belongs to the family Paulowniaceae. It is commonly known as the Empress Tree, Princess Tree, or Foxglove Tree.
• Tung (Vernicia fordii): Belongs to the family Euphorbiaceae (the spurge family, making it a relative of rubber trees and cassava). It is commonly called the Tung Oil Tree.

2. Wood vs. Oil (Primary Uses)​

• Kiri is famous for its wood. It produces an incredibly lightweight, warp-resistant, and fine-grained timber. In woodworking, it is highly prized for making high-end items like stringed instruments, traditional furniture, and specialized sports equipment where a high strength-to-weight ratio is crucial.
• Tung is famous for its seeds. The seeds inside its apple-like fruit are pressed to create Tung oil, a premium drying oil used to finish and protect wood. The wood of the Tung tree itself is weak and has little to no commercial value.

 

[merlin el mago]

donic whipper inner is kiri core and yellow alc
harimoto super alc is kiri core and same as harimoto super zlc

Donic Whiper "the top layer is Limba, the middle layer is Ayous, and the center layer is Kiri. Hyramid Carbon, which is the mixed woven of Hyramid fiber (= a kind of aramid fiber0 and carbon fiber, is inserted directly under the top layer." Google info.

 

[piligrim]

I had one like this.
the 729 V-6
but I think it's discontinued.

you still can buy it

729 Aramid Carbon Blade V-6 [729BLV6] - $35.99 : Table Tennis Only, Best Value Professional Table Tennis Equipment

Table Tennis Only 729 Aramid Carbon Blade V-6 [729BLV6] - 729 Aramid Carbon Blade V-6 is a product made like Butterfly Timo Boll ALC but with more touch and feel. Great product and value. Speed: OFF Thick: 6.4mm 5W + 2C

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[merlin el mago]

In my feeling other way, ZLC softer then ALC

 

[merlin el mago]

Donic Xtreme

But not ALC it uses STC (Spread Tow Carbon).

 

[piligrim]

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If I will look for softer blade should I look on graph ot base on my personal expirience and feeling?

 

[merlin el mago]

See the graph, BTY ZLC are always fastest than ALC.

 

[K.K]

Donic Whiper "the top layer is Limba, the middle layer is Ayous, and the center layer is Kiri. Hyramid Carbon, which is the mixed woven of Hyramid fiber (= a kind of aramid fiber0 and carbon fiber, is inserted directly under the top layer." Google info.

you searched for the outer, but i wrote donic whiper inner

 

[piligrim]

See the graph, BTY ZLC are always fastest than ALC.

We talking about hardness, not speed. I don't need graph. I had almost all of them

 

[merlin el mago]

you searched for the outer, but i wrote donic whiper inner

Still uses ayous.

 

[K.K]

Still uses ayous.

limba and ayous are visually nearly indistinguishable from each other and basically all of the butterfly blades with ALC use ayous as second layer, same as the ones i wrote before