DHS fans unite!

[zwin]

im a little surprised to see people use skyline in this era haha, everyone i see mainly uses hurricane and butterfly so its a nice change, is skyline harder than h3?

I'll have to see how my Skyline 2 Blue Sponge sounds tomorrow night. I used to get a really loud cracking when I had my Boosted VICTAS Triple Double Extra on a Fan Zhendong Super ALC CS, so interested to see with my Boosted S2BS on Hurricane Hao III CS.

 

[RPB Enthusiast]

im a little surprised to see people use skyline in this era haha, everyone i see mainly uses hurricane and butterfly so its a nice change, is skyline harder than h3?

Some comments I've seen say the topsheet is harder and is tackier, which I can confirm it's true since I used Skyline 2 Commerical and Hurricane 3 37° together at one point. The lower throw angle is what I really like about it, which got me curious about the DHS H2 since it's supposed to have a low throw angle (maybe lower than Skyline 2? Don't really know).

 

[RPB Enthusiast]

It's a relatively niche product because most people use H3 instead, but they exist. Here in AU there's a few shops stocking it.

The part number starts with G on some of the National ones so they may even be making export versions. Some of my H3 start with G, some don't; it's supposedly the export marking for "Global". I don't know if it signifies lower quality anymore like the old "export" marking did. They go for about 120AUD which is roughly as much as a STAR National NEO H3 sheet, jeez.

Considering they haven't updated the NEO H2 package and they seem to only produce small amounts of it, I feel like it might be on the way out, though.

Well, I decided to buy a DHS N301 blade with DHS H2 AND DHS H3N 37°. The HH3 setup right now feels really off and I definitely got a bad blade. It's a huge difference from when I bought the 1st one early 2025, and I have a very similar setup, so I know it's not the rubbers that are the issue. I'm actually really looking forward to H2, but if I decide to stick with it, then I can't buy it only from TT11 since the shipping is very expensive.

 

[Archo]

Well, I decided to buy a DHS N301 blade with DHS H2 AND DHS H3N 37°. The HH3 setup right now feels really off and I definitely got a bad blade. It's a huge difference from when I bought the 1st one early 2025, and I have a very similar setup, so I know it's not the rubbers that are the issue. I'm actually really looking forward to H2, but if I decide to stick with it, then I can't buy it only from TT11 since the shipping is very expensive.

The B2 I got plays well in low and high power, but it has some weird region near 40-60% power (drives, normal loops, fast pushes) where the throw angle becomes basically 0, it becomes SUPER fast and there's no spin. It's faster than any outer blade with tensors I've ever tried, by a lot. I think it's defective lol.

Good old DHS blade QC. 😊

 

[RPB Enthusiast]

The B2 I got plays well in low and high power, but it has some weird region near 40-60% power (drives, normal loops, fast pushes) where the throw angle becomes basically 0, it becomes SUPER fast and there's no spin. It's faster than any outer blade with tensors I've ever tried, by a lot. I think it's defective lol.

Good old DHS blade QC. 😊

This was interesting to read. I'll have to update you about my experience whenever I get it, but worse case I just go back to Skyline 2.

 

[Archo]

This was interesting to read. I'll have to update you about my experience whenever I get it, but worse case I just go back to Skyline 2.

For reference I tried ZJK ALC, Harimoto ALC, Viscaria, FZD ALC and ZJK Original Carbon and all of those are slower than my B2 with my H3 BS, even with tensors like Dignics 05 and K3. Not by a little, by like 20-30%. Crazy.

Hard to trust opinions about some equipment online when you never know who just got a defective or very out of spec one.

 

[Coolsta Connor]

Whats the difference with all the different skyline numbers?

 

[RPB Enthusiast]

Whats the difference with all the different skyline numbers?

Skyline 2 vs Skyline 3

Here's a good thread that explains it pretty well. Personally, I prefer Skyline 2 over Skyline 3.

 

[Archo]

If I ever win the lottery, I won't make it obvious but there will be signs.

That normal National is actually a blue sponge; seems to be some export version judging by the markings. The PN ends in "B" and it sure is blue.

 

[mihalichtheone]

If I ever win the lottery, I won't make it obvious but there will be signs.

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That normal National is actually a blue sponge; seems to be some export version judging by the markings. The PN ends in "B" and it sure is blue.

Did you really win the lottery?

The Star National version is very good in my experience. I wouldn't buy another version for forehand these days, it's also quite durable so worth it.

 

[Archo]

Did you really win the lottery?

The Star National version is very good in my experience. I wouldn't buy another version for forehand these days, it's also quite durable so worth it.

I wish, but between some sales recently and 11.11, this is what I've collected. Should be good for a while. I bought too much, but eh, I have zip bags to store them in.

I noticed a difference between National and Provincial blue sponge. National is faster without a spin penalty in higher impact shots and without a spin penalty in serving. National also measures 2deg softer on the topsheet for the same sponge hardness at least on the sheets I have. It's subtle but I don't think I'm making it up.

If STAR is even more like that then for someone at my level it's not worth it per-se, but buying it on sale is not much more than what an ESN tensor would go for, and less than Dignics or Tenergy.

The XP one I bought is cheaper than the others and 41A seems to be my sweet spot so I might buy more of that once all of these run out if I really find a benefit to it.

I'll probably try the ML one some day, but not this year.

 

[RPB Enthusiast]

If I ever win the lottery, I won't make it obvious but there will be signs.

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That normal National is actually a blue sponge; seems to be some export version judging by the markings. The PN ends in "B" and it sure is blue.

Are there any differences between National Neo and National Non-Neo? On PROTT, Non-Neo are usually cheaper than Neo, but don't really understand tbh

 

[Archo]

Are there any differences between National Neo and National Non-Neo? On PROTT, Non-Neo are usually cheaper than Neo, but don't really understand tbh

I bought those to find out.

I'm pretty sure it's a slightly lower quality bin seeing as they only come in 2.2mm and are probably made by an OEM. Also unboosted and unglued obviously.

The "pro version" non-NEO National comes in 2.10mm and is just different, not something you can really get your hands on.