Dignics 09c vs dignics 05

[_ak]

don't know why they release at 44 for the public when almost 99% can't top it out. (I am close to 2200 btw.)

Glayzer 09C

 

[Tomboov247]

I'm researching this as my T05 is at the end of it's lifetime and I am considering various options between D05, D09c and Victas VS 401 (which somehow feels very interesting to me) - I found this interesting comparison:

 

[Love_TT]

What do you mean with "top out a rubber"? And why is this so important for you to "top it out"? I have watched some of your videos and I verify that you are 1) a much better player than I, 2) that you are much fitter than I and 3) that you practice table tennis maybe 10x more than I, but I am not sure, if soft (or heavily boosted) rubbers are the best option for you.

Personally I am a bad player, but some of my problems are caused to the fact that I was not able to play short enough. Most of the ESN rubbers are simply too bouncy for me in the short game. I tried to go back to classic rubbers, but there is a lack of spin and power in my eyes. I tried chinese rubbers, but without boosting they are not playable for me and boosting is a real annoying process in my eyes.

I tried some of the new and harder ESN rubbers like R53 and Nexus EL Pro 50, which helped me a lot, because they are easier to play for me than the softer versions, at least in the short game and this is important for me. I have to add, that I am mostly playing from short distance, directly at the table, sometimes 1-2 m away from the table but nearly never from a longer distance.

Actually I am testing the Dignics 09C on both sides (fh = 2,1 mm / bh = 1,9 mm) on a 89g Innerforce blade. Together with 2x D09C the total wight is 189-190g, which is not too much for me. And from the first impressions this rubber is fantastic in the short game, extremely grippy, fast enough for spin attack and hard shots and very easy to control, especially in the passive game. You only need a short active movement of your hand to set the right direction of the ball. IF you do this (and you really must do this), the control of this rubber is amazing. Therefore I think, Dignics 09C (in opposite to Dignics 05) is not only an option for higher rated players. In my eyes the D09C is much easier to play with compared with D05, with H3 and also H3 Neo.

I don't want to attack you, but actually I have less mistakes in my strokes than I can see in your videos, although my playing-skills are MUCH lower than yours. So my advice for you is, to try D09C without boosting, but not only 5-10 minutes. Try it for some training-sessions and maybe the result will be astonishing for you. Your arm and your movements are fast enough for this rubber.

Can you compare the difference between dig09c 1.9 vs 2.1mm?
I'm using Dig05 2.1 and feel it is too bouncy. I want change to Dig09c 1.9 for low-throw angle and more spin control, Dig05 2.1 is too high-throw for me.

 

[sebi]

Your technique is not for hard rubbers .

That's an interesting statement how should a technique for hard rubber look like?

 

[sebi]

D05 is very good at mid distance. High arc very spinny you can really go forward and the ball goes on the table.
D09c you need a lot more body and legs to have the same result but if you hit it correctly the spin is outer worldly.

D09c is the best rubber for counter top spin, where as D05 is harder to use, technique is quite different and balls fly out easier.

Service D09c is unmatched very spinny and easy to go fast and spinny.

Short in the table D09c is better but I dont think D05 is bad. It's a bit bouncier but there are worse rubbers.

 

[mamedium]

who uses Dignics anymore?
aren’t we all gonna switch to Zyre?

 

[StreamOfWater]

who uses Dignics anymore?
aren’t we all gonna switch to Zyre?

Definitely not, especially with that price tag. It's your technique that makes the difference either way

 

[mamedium]

Definitely not, especially with that price tag. It's your technique that makes the difference either way

no you are wrong
we all pay to win

 

[StreamOfWater]

no you are wrong
we all pay to win

Yet you still do not win 🤔

 

[Yurifi]

yes, d09c have more dwell then d05.

here is my detailed comparison

with all due respect, and I have a lot for your work (which I am very grateful for) but ... you are a bit wrong here ... at least when speaking about 2.1 thickness rubber, D05 has tons of dwell. more than D09c. I love a good dwell rubber, but, at least on BH, D05 has too much. might be blade combo as well (Xiom HAL) but yes - Dignics 05 in 2.1 thickness has loads of dwell, and on backhand it might be too much. on FH it's actually a bit better, but still quite dwelly, but then again I prefer D09c on forehand or at least I like the feel that D09c offers better than D05 ... both are great rubbers, of course, but I will definitely change D05 on BH for D09c ...

 

[Tyce]

Definitely not, especially with that price tag. It's your technique that makes the difference either way

It's the best marketing trick in the world - used everywhere!
Introduce a more expensive version, and people will buy more of the secondmost expensive version (Dignics) simply because it doesn't feel like the most money you can spend on a rubber anymore.
I'm telling you, Zyre will bring people from Tenergy to Dignics!

 

[_ak]

I'm telling you, Zyre will bring people from Tenergy to Dignics!

Well, I tried T80 at BH side and couldn't get used to it. Drive works well, brush loop also well, good blocks and flicks but drive loop is tricky. D80 fixed it

 

[NextLevel]

Definitely not, especially with that price tag. It's your technique that makes the difference either way

Depends on which difference. The difference from technique is huge. But the difference from equipment is smaller but usually also easier to access, especially for experienced players. So the difference you need to make up and the ease of accessing it are what you need to look at when evaluating the decision for a specific player.