Do you agree with this drawing?

[dan669]

It is from PingSunday . He said that beginners should try to execute the FH topspin in that way. I am a weekend recreative player, ELO 1000 I guess.
Should I follow this advice?
Currently I tend to hit faster and flatter and I feel I can do more damage than when I try to follow the beginner arch of this drawing.
I am not sure if I should change my sytle, do you think I should?

 

[pingpongpaddy]

It is from PingSunday . He said that beginners should try to execute the FH topspin in that way. I am a weekend recreative player, ELO 1000 I guess.
Should I follow this advice?
Currently I tend to hit faster and flatter and I feel I can do more damage than when I try to follow the beginner arch of this drawing.
I am not sure if I should change my sytle, do you think I should?
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[Sriver1]

Don't trust Pingsunday.

 

[pingpongpaddy]

HI DAN
The ZJK example is best because:

1. it lands on the end of the table pushing the opponent to maybe taking a backward step before he can reply effectively.
   this can be called "good length"
2. The beginner sample is classic "bad length" , By landing short it would be easy for the opponent to step forward with max power
3. You say you. like to play lower and faster and feel that is more difficult for the opponent. However you would be making too many mistakes both in the net and off the end. The pro player uses a high Safe ARC so that he makes power with few mistakes. The top spin the pro applies make the ball dip down to the table after passing high over the net.
   Though amateurs might think the spin difficult to return, other pros know how to read it, and the pro player making the shot is depending on power and clever placement for success. So the high arc is for consistent power.
4. Of course pros can play low fast shots if they need to
   
   hope this helps

 

[\_Kairos_/]

It is from PingSunday . He said that beginners should try to execute the FH topspin in that way. I am a weekend recreative player, ELO 1000 I guess.
Should I follow this advice?
Currently I tend to hit faster and flatter and I feel I can do more damage than when I try to follow the beginner arch of this drawing.
I am not sure if I should change my sytle, do you think I should?
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If this is from PingSunday (aka Emrathich or whatever his name is...), then it's either total nonsense or it is flat out stolen from somewhere else. Because that's essentially what you get from him: Nonsense and/or stolen info.

Don't believe him when he is claiming to have "secret" knowledge of chinese technique etc., don't listen to him in the first place and therefore don't be someone to whom Mr. T would say to:

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

It is from PingSunday . He said that beginners should try to execute the FH topspin in that way. I am a weekend recreative player, ELO 1000 I guess.
Should I follow this advice?
Currently I tend to hit faster and flatter and I feel I can do more damage than when I try to follow the beginner arch of this drawing.
I am not sure if I should change my sytle, do you think I should?
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1) pingsunday is a fake, he steals content - including from TTD. I won't trust him to teach any one, anything.
2) this is just a diagram on the arc and placement of the ball
3) this is not executing the FH, this is just a flight pattern of the ball landing deeper.
4) your advise should be getting the ball on the table and as many times as possible
5) get a real coach
6) work on technique to have both quantity (number 4) and quality

Currently I tend to hit faster and flatter and I feel I can do more damage than when I try to follow the beginner arch of this drawing.

and for beginners, not making mistakes or rather, keeping the ball on, should be your best strategy.
and it is all relative to the level of your opponents too.
until you find a coach or post videos, it is impossible to comment further

 

[yamagata]

It is good advice taken out of its context. If you want to put maximum amount of topspin on the ball, this is a good training method. When you master the short topspin, you can put more power/speed on the ball. With maximum spin and maximum power/spin you keep the trajectory low, put the ball close the table end line, and have a great second speed (the speed after the ball bounce).

For the vast majority it will be better to settle for the provincial placement, because the concistency will be better and it is enough to put pressure on our opponents. And once in a while it feels great to land a shot that remind ourselves of the Zhang Jike one.

So yes, I agree.

 

[ck1407]

To be honest, all 3 arcs are usable in match play, if your body is not in the optimal position, a high and shorter arcing loop will help you guarantee that the ball will land on the other end of the table. When there is an easy ball, you should aim for loops that land deep into the table. When playing against people you are not used to, a loop that is in between the above 2 will be safer while maintaining sufficient aggressive for loopers.

different types of loops have their value in different scenarios

 

[Lazer]

It is from PingSunday . He said that beginners should try to execute the FH topspin in that way. I am a weekend recreative player, ELO 1000 I guess.
Should I follow this advice?
Currently I tend to hit faster and flatter and I feel I can do more damage than when I try to follow the beginner arch of this drawing.
I am not sure if I should change my sytle, do you think I should?
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Forget about those arcs, try to hit with a lot of topspin. Hit the ball thinner with more if a brush. When far away hit with more of a full hit. You will feel when you get a lot of topspin, if not you didn’t…

Cheers
L-zr